Artillery lost Oct - Nov 1917

[stevebecker]

Tosun,

I am sure you mention it some where. but I can't find it, but didn't

Source: Maj. Gen. Hüseyin Hüsnü Emir (Erkilet) gives the following information about artillary in his book "Yıldırım"

What guns were lost and where they came from in his account during Nov - Dec 1917?

Can you find it for me.

I did find this incomplete list you gave some time ago?

Maj. Gen. Hüseyin Hüsnü Emir Erkilet "Yıldırım" (The Lightning) p.363
"A Report given by 8th Army to War Ministry.
 
1-Following Artillary units were given to the order of Infantry Divisions at Sinai Front:
a) to 3rd Inf. Div.: 1st batt. of 5th Field Art. Regt and 1st batt. of 6th Art. Regt.

to 54th Inf. Div: 2nd batt. of 5oth Art. regt and 2nd batt. of 13th Art. Regt.

to 53th Inf. Div.: 2nd batt. of 1st Art. regt. and 2nd batt. of 2nd Art. Regt.

to 7th Inf. Div.: 1st batt. of 14th and 1st batt. of 13rd.

to16th Inf. Div.: 1sr Batt of 16th and 2nd batt. of 6th

to 19th Inf. Div.: 1st batt of 10th and 2nd batt of 25th

to 20th Inf. Div. :1st & 2nd batts of 20th

The following Battalions had 7,5 cm guns:
1st batt of 47th, 1&2 batts of 14th, 1st batt or 43th, 2nd Batt of 8th.

The following Batt.s had 7,7 cm guns:
1st batt. of 21st,

The following batt. had 7,5 cm guns:
2nd strong mountain gun Battalion of 27th.

c) Light Howitzer Units:
2nd Howitzer Battalion of 41st, 2nd batt. of 23th, 2nd batt of 44th
 
d) Humbara/ Mortar battaries were 103, 104, 105, 106, 113, 115, 116 th.
 
2- The guns that we lost:

a) 2nd Batt. of 5oth Field Artillary Regt. compliately. (54th Div)
A gun from 2nd batt. of 13th (54th Div)
2 guns of 2nd B. of 1st, (53rd Div)
1 gun of 1st B. of 16th  (16th Div)
6 guns of 2nd B. of 6th  (16th Div)
4 guns of 1st B of 47th
5 guns of 2nd B. of 14th

more to follow (but you didn't finish it?)

There units I was after are those with the 7th Army 3rd Corps (27th Div) which he dosn.t mention?

Cheers

S.B

[Tosun Saral]

Yıldırım p.356
power of 3rd Army on 18.11.1917

Army HQ 350 men, 204 animal
HQ of 3rd AC together with 24th, 27th and 19th divs. : 5500 men, 2000 animal

3rd Cav. Div.: 2000 men,1820 animal

HQ of 20th AC togetherwith 26th, 53rddivs.: 6000 men, 2200 animal
total: 18350 men, 7724 animal

Artillery:
7,5 cm quickfire field: 46
7,7cm " : 8
8.7cm " . 8
8.7 cm mantelli : 8
7,5cm Schneider : 2
7,5 cm commen mountain : 2
Total: 74

[stevebecker]

Tosun,

Thank you.

Does he give a break down of these units as he does for the 8th Army?

Do these numbers show losses or strength of these formations

Cheers

S.B

[Tosun Saral]

these numbers show strength of the formations. he does not give a break down of these units as he does for the 8th Army.