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Re: Particular March from "TRIUMPH DES WILLENS"

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Re: Particular March from "TRIUMPH DES WILLENS"

Postby TonyCas562 on 17 Jun 2012 10:58

HELLO TO ALL!

Can anyone help me identify this march from the one and only "Triumph des Willens"?

It is in the scene entitled: "Nighttime Rally of Political Leaders"
The march begins at the cut where the camera pans down from the night-time sky onto Albert Speer's "Sea of Flags" at the Nuremberg Rally and the tune to the march goes something like this:

D-duh-duh...d-d-duh-duh-d-duh-duuh...d-d-duh-duh-d-duh-duh! D-d-duh-duh-d-DUH! DUH! D-DUH!"

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Re: Particular March from "TRIUMPH DES WILLENS"

Postby Ivan Ž. on 17 Jun 2012 16:33

Kürassiermarsch "Großer Kurfürst"

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Re: Re: Particular March from "TRIUMPH DES WILLENS"

Postby TonyCas562 on 17 Jun 2012 19:41

Thank you very much, Ivan Z!!!! : D
Wishing you all good things!
--Anthony

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Re: Particular March from "TRIUMPH DES WILLENS"

Postby camaysar on 31 Jul 2012 21:17

Greetings,

Indeed there seems to be confusion regarding the 2 marches ‘Jugend marschiert’ and ‘Die Jugend marschiert mit frohem Gesang’. I believe the second (not used in Hans Westmar) is the superior music, actually a delightful piece as sung by a boy choir.

In any case, regarding Ernst Hanfstaengl, he was known mostly as a composer of marches and fight songs (for his alma mater Harvard University). He is credited for "Oberaufsicht und Musik" in the titles of Hans Westmar. But there is another music credit: "Dr. Becce", for "Musikleitung u-Mustrierung". Musikleitung means conductor, but I am not familiar with the term "Mustrierung". Perhaps someone here can help provide the meaning.

Dr. Becce is undoubtedly Giuseppe Becce, a serious classical musician and long-time composer for German cinema. The quite moving opening theme of Hans Westmar does not sound like the kind of music usually identified with Hanfstaengl. I believe it is possibly written by Becce. Can anyone provide some knowledge of this issue? Thank you. Great forum, by the way!

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Re: Re: Particular March from "TRIUMPH DES WILLENS"

Postby camaysar on 03 Aug 2012 00:35

I have since heard that Hanfstaengl wrote the beautiful composition as a funeral march for his daughter Herta, who died at age 5.

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Re: Re: Particular March from "TRIUMPH DES WILLENS"

Postby Blitzwotan on 17 Aug 2012 18:04

Dr. Becce is undoubtedly Giuseppe Becce, a serious classical musician and long-time composer for German cinema. The quite moving opening theme of Hans Westmar does not sound like the kind of music usually identified with Hanfstaengl. I believe it is possibly written by Becce. Can anyone provide some knowledge of this issue? Thank you. Great forum, by the way!

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