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Discussions on the music in the Third Reich.
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Re: Military music CD reviews

Postby brunojohn333 on 15 Dec 2011 10:44

Dear Sirs,

As Tomahawk's producer and the chap that has invested a small fortune in producing our internationally recognised Third Reich Military Music CDs I am getting a mite tired (and then some) of this self-styled expert (well he would be if he actually knew anything about the subject-matter), constantly denigrating our archival output and making sly comments about my work ...most of which are either plain wrong or libellous and this had got to stop.

How dare he take our work and months later put our covers and his re-written track listings of our work (such breath taking arrogance as to be unbelievable), up on your Forum, with him having decided on a whim (and with no contact with us), that the raw material we all worked with is erroneous or we do not know what we are talking about, especially when the company (and album) he quotes as being so ‘outstanding’ has made some unfortunate and very basic research errors in their productions, which many of us have noticed but out of sheer professional manners we have kept quiet about...but nom this 'self-styled expert' obviously did not pick up those mistakes so it just shows his level of knowledge..pretty near Zero many of us feel!)

I am actually quite outraged that this gentleman (and I would appreciate it as I have said before on one of these links) has not had the professional courtesy to contact us directly so that we can put him right about the many factual errors he has made about our work.

This is the big problem with these Forums (and why we usually have little to do with them other than respond to a fool like this chap), in that they let people like this (and we have no idea who you are, perhaps you are the Russian pirate who ripped off all of our material several years ago?), be allowed to slander our work at will and un0checked and I wish the Forum Modulator would please take note of this gentleman and stop him making libellous oe erroneous large scale posts about Tomahawk Films Internationally recognised work as it makes him look a complete idiot and also you, the Modulator, unwise, if you are happy to support this 'gentleman' in his mis-representation of our work.

Sir, your entire spare time seems to be taken up with obsessing about our work.. are you some sort of 'frustrated producer' unable to afford the cost of your own work, so easier to show off to your audience, sir, by denigrating other producer's work? Very Odd to say the least..but this has to stop.

As I have said once on here before, I personally take all the original material into the studio for digital re-mastering and so I know exactly what goes into each album and so our listings are complete and accurate.. and I don't remember you spending days in the studio with me as my co-producer so sir, would you please stop hiding behind your anonymity (if you dare) and show yourself so we can finally unmask you and discover exactly what your interest is in accusing Tomahawk Films of not knowing what we are about.

Perhaps you are working with a rival company and are being paid to denigrate our work mayhap?

We have been in business for over 25 years supplying global movie and TV companies (from MGM in Hollywood to the BBC in London), with their original archival sound-tracks whilst also providing the collecting world globally with high quality CDs of these wonderful period recordings and intend to be here for another 25 years, whether you like it or not.

So stop publishing your fatuous, erroneous and just plain libellous comments about our work and I also suggest that though he obviously wants to start a stream of discussion about companies getting it wrong, anybody thinking about joining in with this gentleman’s apparent hysteria about my company Tomahawk Films and his allegations of inaccuracies on our part, I suggest anybody getting caught up in his wave of enthusiasm think twice about joining in as many of our customers have alerted us to this chap's contants 'work' in slagging us off and so now, along with myself (and our lawyers), we will be watching for further such postings of his slanderous and libellous comments..

For the gentleman involved I have just one comment: ‘Grow Up’ and stick to a subject you perhaps know something about as German Military Music is so very obviously not your subject that is plain for us all to see. Actually to go a little further, if I were you, sir, , rather than publicly show of your stupidity and lack of knowledge in the subject and making a regular & complete jerk of yourself to the public at large, I think you’d we well advised to shut up..and keep quiet for a welcome period of silence which I thank many of us would welcome!!

As for the Modulators, sirs, I think you would also be doing your contributors a big favour if you stopped this chap from not only publishing erroneous'libellous details of our work on your website as well, but encouraging your contributors to join him in his weird Tomahawk Films-bashing by starting such a steram of discussion that he is seemingly hell-bent on indulging in, as this can, and will, only end badly for all those so involved ..thank you very much

Yours sincerely,
Brian Matthews
Producer and CEO
The Tomahawk Films
WW-II German Archive
Winchester
UK

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Re: Military music CD reviews

Postby Ivan Ž. on 15 Dec 2011 12:53

Dear Mr. Matthews,

Thank you very much for the 2nd round of insults.

You are obviously a person not worthy of a reply from my side at all, but I will do it anyway.

It is quite shocking that instead of an apology for your initial post and a public apology to your customers (if nothing else then just for your "LSSAH" CD), you decided to stick with the insults. Well, fine by me. As you should know, an insult says more about the insulter than the insultee.

Believe me, you are not the only person "getting tired" here. Are you at all aware that anyone can check my informations simply by visiting SCF, or youtube record collectors' accounts? It takes just a few minutes! Are you aware that you do not own the only copies of these records? This is ridiculous. Every average collector of military records will instantly recognize who is making a fool of himself here. You are acting as if the two of us are the last persons on Earth to own such records, so it's best to play my word against yours, it just might work!

You keep asking why didn't I have the "professional courtesy" to contact you? What for? To ask why did you lie? If there was an error in question, I would, naturally. We are obviously talking about your "LSSAH" CD here (which you are constantly avoiding to comment!), which is a scam and not just a couple of errors and you know it. This is well illustrated in this topic (page 1). And now when everyone can see (and check for themselves with various collectors) what is actually being sold on this particular CD, you did not decide to apologize and stop further sale of this scam, but instead you still advertize it on your website as your best selling CD. Not a good advertisement and so much about your own professionalism. And it's quite surprising considering that you do have much better projects which deserve only compliments. If you took the time to read my reviews you would actually see that out of seven reviewed CDs of yours, I did not recommend only two. I am always trying to be fair and compliment what is good. So, is that what you call "constantly denigrating our archival output"? Five positive reviews out of seven? OK, then perhaps my math isn't correct as I thought it was.

You also keep talking about my "factual errors". Name a few! I wrote about yours. If you have something concrete to write about, do so. Series of insults lead nowhere. But it is obvious that if you could prove me wrong, you would have done it by now.

I don't think I need to waste a word on the rest of your insults. I simply cannot sink that low, I am sorry. I can only say that the point of a serious historical forum like this one is to seek the truth and publish facts, which is the only goal of this (music) section as well, I assure you. No one is trying to have a little private war against you, or your company; that's just silly. In any case, you're not that interesting to anyone here, trust me.

If you wish to add anything else, I beg you to comment only the "best selling CD" of yours. Please.

Sincerely,
Ivan Ž.
http://www.schellackforum.com

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For your information, I actually tried to stop the piracy of your tracks several times, on Amazon and youtube.

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Re: Ivan Z's Reviews

Postby brunojohn333 on 05 May 2012 18:39

Well as I said before, Mr Ivan Z, I have no idea who you really are, (hiding behind your moniker), as you still do not have the professional courtesy to contact me or my company directly and check out your statements and so correct your on-going fatuous, erroneous and just plain wrong comments about our work before posting them... and as you so obvioulsy have no intention of revealing who you are, (and your moderators are apparently very happy to let you keep wittering on ad nauseum), I will simply let others read into your comments what they will and make up their own mind.

Were I in your shoes I would have been more than a little embarrassed and certainly made contact to check your errors and apologise for your inaccuracies and insulting remarks but in your fatuous reply you simply give credence to your lack of knowldege on this subject and underline the fact that many people spouting off on these Forums are either, it appears, frustrated producers unable to come up with their own work.. or merely sad publicity-seekers and as you obviously don't appear to produce anything yourself, you must fall into the second category!!.

Who or what gives you the right to 'go on air' and set yourself up as self-styled expert and grandly comment on, (or rather insult), everybody else's hard work when you have not produced anything yourself and you offer no proof of your, er, 'expertise??

Perhaps for you the old adage rings true:. "those can do, those who can't teach..and those who can't do either, become critics!!"

As I say I have been in working in the International Film & Television business for over 34 years and working with World War Two/Nazi-Era musik, specifically, for over 25 years (and have a list of production credits as long as your arm and Tomahawk Films has a very long and happy global list of satisfied customers for our CDs since 1987..with their freely proffered coments of approval posted on our website for all to see), so you'll excuse me if we don't need or seek your 'personal authorisation or approval' for my /our professional work..!

Again you know absolutely nothing about my company and its best selling works, (clearly by your on-going ignorant & sarcastic commentary), so for goodness sake stop being a complete Grade A Jerk, as a number of collectors in this field are beginning to notice what a very tiresome & boring individual you are becoming..!

A period of silence from you on this Forum would be most welcome, thank you!

Brian Matthews
Producer and CEO
The Tomahawk Films
WW-II German Archive
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Re: Military music CD reviews

Postby Marcus Wendel on 06 May 2012 12:24

Drop the personal remarks. Everyone is welcome to disagree with the reviews but do so in a civil manner.

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Re: Wunschkonzert für die Wehrmacht [6 CD set]

Postby Dieter33 on 07 Jun 2012 13:15

Ivan Ž. wrote:Tomahawk Films
- sound quality: good
- note: unfortunately, CD authors wanted these recordings to sound live, I guess, so they added the applause, which is often mixing with beginnings of tracks
- tracks are mix of recordings from Weimarer Republik and III Reich period

16. Gute Nacht, Mutter!
Musik: Werner Bochmann | Text: Erwin Lehnow
Die Goldene Sieben | Gesang: Wilhelm Strienz (Baß)
Berlin, 1938[/size]


[post updated on 21.07.2011]


Hallo,

why title Gute Nacht, Mutter is on every CD?

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Re: Military music CD reviews

Postby Dieter on 07 Jun 2012 21:47

I got the impression that it was the sign-off music for the end of each broadcast.

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Re: Military music CD reviews

Postby SQ37 on 06 Nov 2012 21:20

04. Durch deutsches Land marschieren wir
Musik: Trad. | Bearbeitung: Hermann Männecke | Text: Herbert Hammer
Deutsches Blasorchester | Dirigent: Alfred Engel | Gesang: Chor des SA-Sturms 67/5
Berlin, 1933


Has someone understood what were the commands at the beginning?

In general, who shouted such commands when recording military music? The conductor?

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Re: Military music CD reviews

Postby Ivan Ž. on 06 Nov 2012 21:56

SQ37 wrote:Has someone understood what were the commands at the beginning?

In general, who shouted such commands when recording military music? The conductor?

Not sure about the "commander", but the command is "Gleichschritt! Marsch!"

Cheers,
Ivan

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I think I've seen only once "commander" credited on a record and it was not the conductor, but an officer. It could be anyone, really.

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Re: Military music CD reviews

Postby SQ37 on 07 Nov 2012 01:36

Ivan Ž. wrote:
SQ37 wrote:Has someone understood what were the commands at the beginning?

In general, who shouted such commands when recording military music? The conductor?

Not sure about the "commander", but the command is "Gleichschritt! Marsch!"

Cheers,
Ivan

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I think I've seen only once "commander" credited on a record and it was not the conductor, but an officer. It could be anyone, really.


Thanks ! The choir is so enthusiastic in this recording that it is excellent.

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Sonnenwärts [Fliegermärsche]

Postby Ivan Ž. on 14 Feb 2013 15:01

AL-Studios
- highly recommended
- sound quality: very good
- all artists credited (with some minor errors)
- many rarities

Sonnenwaerts.jpg

Correct info:

01. Sonnenwärts [Fliegermarsch]
Musik: Hans Teichmann
Musikkorps des Wachbataillons der Luftwaffe, Berlin | Dirigent: Obermusikmeister Hans Teichmann
Berlin, 1938

02. Fliegerparade
Musik: Gustav Rath
Jagdgeschwader „Richthofen“ (Musikkorps der Fliegerhorst-Kommandantur Döberitz) | Dirigent: Stabsmusikmeister Max Böhm
Berlin, 1938

03. Präsentiermarsch der Flieger (Pariser Einzugsmarsch)
Musik: Johann Heinrich Walch
Jagdgeschwader „Richthofen“ (Musikkorps der Fliegerhorst-Kommandantur Döberitz) | Dirigent: Stabsmusikmeister Max Böhm
Berlin, 1938

04. Einzug der Flieger [Marsch]
Musik: Rudolph Schmidt
Musikkorps der Luftwaffe | Dirigent: Luftwaffen-Musikinspizient Hans Felix Husadel
Berlin, 1936

05. Alexander-Marsch
Musik: Andreas Leonhardt
Stabsmusikkorps des Wachbataillons der Luftwaffe, Berlin | Dirigent: Stabsmusikmeister Hans Teichmann
Berlin, 1943

06. Hohenlychen-Marsch
Musik: Wilhelm Zoepf
Musikkorps des Wachbataillons der Luftwaffe, Berlin | Dirigent: Obermusikmeister Hans Teichmann
Berlin, 1938

07. Hermann Göring-Marsch [Fliegermarsch]
Musik: Horst Gerlach
Jagdgeschwader „Richthofen“ (Musikkorps der Fliegerhorst-Kommandantur Döberitz) | Dirigent: Stabsmusikmeister Max Böhm
Berlin, 1938

08. Militärsignal [Marsch]
Musik: Hans Felix Husadel
Musikkorps der Luftwaffe | Dirigent: Luftwaffen-Musikinspizient Hans Felix Husadel
Berlin, 1936

09. Flieger, empor! [Marsch der deutschen Flieger]
Musik: Ernst Erich Buder
Stabsmusikkorps des Wachbataillons der Luftwaffe, Berlin | Dirigent: Stabsmusikmeister Hans Teichmann
Berlin, 1940

10. Fliegergeschwader „Hindenburg“
Musik: Hans Felix Husadel
Hochschulorchester der Luftwaffe, Berlin | Dirigent: Luftwaffen-Musikinspizient Professor Hans Felix Husadel
Berlin, 1938

11. Deutscher Flieger [Marsch]
Musik: Hanns Ludwig Kormann
Stabsmusikkorps des Wachbataillons der Luftwaffe, Berlin | Dirigent: Stabsmusikmeister Hans Teichmann
Berlin, 1940

12. Aufwärts zur Sonne
Musik: Friedrich Rönnfeldt
Jagdgeschwader „Richthofen“ (Musikkorps der Fliegerhorst-Kommandantur Döberitz) | Dirigent: Stabsmusikmeister Max Böhm
Berlin, 1938

13. Postawy-Marsch
Musik: Hans Felix Husadel
Musikkorps des Luftnachrichten-Regiments des Oberbefehlshabers der Luftwaffe | Dirigent: Musikmeister Erich Kiesant
Berlin, 1939

14. Luftsport voran
Musik: Willy Finger
Jagdgeschwader „Richthofen“ (Musikkorps der Fliegerhorst-Kommandantur Döberitz) | Dirigent: Stabsmusikmeister Max Böhm
Berlin, 1938

15. Startbereit [Fliegermarsch]
Musik: Karl Rockstroh
Jagdgeschwader „Richthofen“ (Musikkorps der Fliegerhorst-Kommandantur Döberitz) | Dirigent: Stabsmusikmeister Max Böhm
Berlin, 1938

16. Der Fallschirmjäger [Marsch] * inspired by Abe Holzmann's march "Old Faithful" (1908)
Musik: Friedrich Rönnfeldt
Musikkorps des Luftnachrichten-Regiments des Oberbefehlshabers der Luftwaffe | Dirigent: Musikmeister Erich Kiesant
Berlin, 1939

17. Deutscher Adler [Marsch] * also inspired by Abe Holzmann's march "Old Faithful"
Musik: Hans Teichmann
Stabsmusikkorps des Wachbataillons der Luftwaffe, Berlin | Dirigent: Stabsmusikmeister Hans Teichmann
Berlin, 1940

18. Himmelsstürmer [Fliegermarsch]
Musik: Fritz Brase
Stabsmusikkorps des Wachbataillons der Luftwaffe, Berlin | Dirigent: Stabsmusikmeister Hans Teichmann
Berlin, 1941

19. Péronne [Marsch]
Musik: Hans Felix Husadel
Musikkorps des Wachbataillons der Luftwaffe, Berlin | Dirigent: Obermusikmeister Hans Teichmann
Berlin, 1938

20. Eritrea [Marsch]
Musik: Antonio d’ Elia
Stabsmusikkorps des Wachbataillons der Luftwaffe, Berlin | Dirigent: Stabsmusikmeister Hans Teichmann
Berlin, 1941

21. La Torre del Oro
Musik: Ricardo Dorado

22. Wespengeschwader
Musik: Wilhelm Dunkelmann
Stabsmusikkorps des Wachbataillons der Luftwaffe, Berlin | Dirigent: Stabsmusikmeister Hans Teichmann
Berlin, 1942

23. Mit dem Sonnenbanner
Musik: Carl Sander | Bearbeitung: Hans Teichmann
Stabsmusikkorps des Wachbataillons der Luftwaffe, Berlin | Dirigent: Stabsmusikmeister Hans Teichmann
Berlin, 1942

24. Schwert am Himmel
Musik: Hans Felix Husadel
Stabsmusikkorps des Regiments „General Göring“ | Dirigent: Musikmeister Hans Frieß
Berlin, 1941
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Re: Sonnenwärts [Fliegermärsche]

Postby Ivan Ž. on 07 Mar 2013 13:33

Ivan Ž. wrote:16. Der Fallschirmjäger [Marsch] * inspired by Abe Holzmann's march "Old Faithful" (1908)
Musik: Friedrich Rönnfeldt

17. Deutscher Adler [Marsch] * also inspired by Abe Holzmann's march "Old Faithful"
Musik: Hans Teichmann

I really can't find a reason for Rönnfeldt and Teichmann to incorporate the tune of this Holzmann's march in their Air Force marches, especially because the title, "Old Faithful", refers to the man's best friend - the dog!

An American dog-tune in German Air Force marches? Don't get it... :lol: :)
...perhaps I should mention that the march was in Germany known as "Treue Freunde" (True Friends), but that's also referring to dogs...

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Re: Sonnenwärts [Fliegermärsche]

Postby Auceps on 16 Apr 2013 18:16

Ivan Ž. wrote:
24. Schwert am Himmel
Musik: Hans Felix Husadel
Stabsmusikkorps des Regiments „General Göring“ | Dirigent: Musikmeister Hans Frieß
Berlin, 1941


So, it's Friess and HG, not Haase and Hochschul-Orchester der LW? From what recording session is that track then?

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Re: Sonnenwärts [Fliegermärsche]

Postby Ivan Ž. on 16 Apr 2013 18:26

Auceps wrote:From what recording session is that track then?

It's a radio recording.

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Re: Military music CD reviews

Postby Auceps on 16 Apr 2013 21:47

Thanks! Any info about it?

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Re: Military music CD reviews

Postby Ivan Ž. on 16 Apr 2013 22:10

Auceps wrote:Thanks! Any info about it?

Well, can't you see the info? :) OK, I know what you mean - the numbers and so on. As you may have noticed, I decided not to mention such details here, for additional copyright protection. It was different on SCF, since it was closed-type of forum, and I knew most members and thus could more or less control a possible misuse of files and informations.

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