Königgrätzer Marsch, with words?

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Königgrätzer Marsch, with words?

Postby Auser » 05 Dec 2011 20:05

Are there any word and lyrics for that marsc. Or maybe for other magnanimous marches as this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeW-hBt3TCg

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Re: Königgrätzer Marsch, with words?

Postby Ivan Ž. » 05 Dec 2011 20:54

Yes, "Der Piefke lief die Stiebel (/Stiefel) schief..." Click here to hear the sample.

Most of other popular marches had lyrics written for them additionally as well.

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Re: Königgrätzer Marsch, with words?

Postby Auser » 08 Dec 2011 00:48

Thanks for the reply and sample. Very nice.
Where can I get a more comprehensive list of lyrics for popular marches, with or without words.

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Re: Königgrätzer Marsch, with words?

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Re: Königgrätzer Marsch, with words?

Postby labwizard » 08 Dec 2011 18:47

... yes, and some other uploads by the same author:
http://www.youtube.com/user/DeutschenVaterland

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Re: Königgrätzer Marsch, with words?

Postby labwizard » 08 Dec 2011 21:18

Hi, Auser,

I don't have such a list you asked for, but here are some scans of selected pieces proving the existence of official lyrics of some of the most popular traditional German marches:

Fridericus-Rex-Grenadiermarsch (Trio)
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Source: Des Königs Grenadiere, H. R. Krentzlin Unterrichtsverlag, Berlin-Lichterfelde, S.no. 10492, pp. 4-5
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Re: Königgrätzer Marsch, with words?

Postby labwizard » 08 Dec 2011 21:20

Unsere Garde
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Source: Unsere Vaterlandslieder und Armeemärsche, 2. Bd., Robert Lienau, Berlin/Wien, S.no. 9911II, pp. 21-22 (Trio)
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Re: Königgrätzer Marsch, with words?

Postby labwizard » 08 Dec 2011 21:21

Egerländer Marsch
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Source: Jung Deutschland auf der Wacht, Richard Birnbach, Berlin, R.B.no. 3475, p. 82 (Trio)
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Re: Königgrätzer Marsch, with words?

Postby labwizard » 08 Dec 2011 21:23

Deutschmeister-Regimentsmarsch
(the Deutschmeister-Regimentsmarsch is historically of Austrian origin)
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Source: Deutschmeister-Regiments Marsch, Otto Maass, Wien, O.M.no. 198, pp. 4-5 (Trio)
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Re: Königgrätzer Marsch, with words?

Postby labwizard » 09 Dec 2011 14:00

BTW., I should also add the note that I've listened to many lyrics sung to the tunes of marches by veterans you can't find in the original songbooks or music books. This is due to the fact that they are unofficial lyrics that are very humorous, frivolous, or even somewhat vulgar.
For historical reasons, it is more typical for unofficial lyrics to start already at a march's first or second movement (piece) instead of being exclusively sung to the trio which can typically be regarded as a "container" for a pre-existing official song or as a presentation of an easily singable tune with official lyrics being created at a later time.
The trio can, of course, also be the second movement of a march, since there's no rule defining a trio to be the third movement. (However, I've seen that there is a definition somewhere in the Wikipedia stating a trio to be "the third section of a march", but this is an incorrect definition basing on the assumption that "tri-" as a numeral prefix refers to the number of the movement. Instead, it refers to the number of distinct instruments historically used to play that piece. The Königgrätzer Marsch is a perfect example of a march having its trio incorporated as its second movement.)
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Re: Königgrätzer Marsch, with words?

Postby Ivan Ž. » 09 Dec 2011 16:40

Note: Fridericus Rex Grenadiermarsch was based on the song (lyrics are older than march)

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Re: Königgrätzer Marsch, with words?

Postby labwizard » 09 Dec 2011 18:32

Yes, you are indeed right!
That's why I had mentioned that one has to differentiate between such cases and those cases where it happened the other way round:
I wrote:...sung to the trio which can typically be regarded as a "container" for a pre-existing official song or as a presentation of an easily singable tune with official lyrics being created at a later time.


...-- And now for the really bad things... -- The unofficial lyrics...
:lol: (really bad laughing with a low echoing voice)

Here some examples pulled out of my atrocious memories I've just written down...
:lol: (again, really bad laughing with a low echoing voice)

Königgrätzer Marsch
kgrm.jpg
"Parademarsch, Parademarsch, der Hauptmann hat 'en Loch im Arsch."
(Goose-step, goose-step, the captain has a hole in his ass.)

Petersburger Marsch
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"Denkste denn, denkste denn, du Berliner Pflanze,
denkste denn, ick liebe dir, nur, weil ick mit dir tanze?"
(Do you think - do you think - you Berlin character,
do you think I love you only because I'm dancing with you?)
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Re: Königgrätzer Marsch, with words?

Postby labwizard » 09 Dec 2011 18:38

Hmm... I think my previous examples are still well known in Germany today...
But I'm sure the following ones are not:

Helenen-Marsch
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|:Das ist die, das ist die, die versoff'ne Artill'rie!:|
|:That's the - that's the - the drunken artillery!:|
["drunken": More in the sense of being alcoholics]


Parademarsch der 18er Husaren
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|:Ein dreifach' Hoch! Ein dreifach' Hoch! Ein dreifach' Hoch
dem Sanitätsgefreiten Neumann!:|
[also with same meaning: Er lebe hoch! ... der Sanitätsgefreite Neumann!]
Früher mußte man sich plagen, seine Flöhe selber jagen,
heute wendet jedermann Neumanns Wundersalbe an.
|:Three cheers! Three cheers! Three cheers for Medical Private Neumann!:|
In the past, we had to slave away at hunting our fleas ourselves -
today, everyone makes use of Neumann's miraculous ointment.
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Re: Königgrätzer Marsch, with words?

Postby labwizard » 09 Dec 2011 21:54

Addendum to Lyrics of Petersburger Marsch

You can find the additional strophes here:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berliner_Pflanze
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Re: Königgrätzer Marsch, with words?

Postby labwizard » 20 Dec 2011 20:44

Addendum to Lyrics of Parademarsch der 18er Husaren

OK, and here - for the really nasty ones only - almost all of its strophes ever invented by bad front-line guys...
and, as it seems, some additional later ones...
No direct posting - no translation - no responsibility - simply the link...
- And don't forget that the contents are only fictitious...
-- You have been warned... --

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090831205945AAIzt4k

:x :x :x :x :x :x :x

P.S.: Don't try Google Translate - you will blow it away -- too many swearwords...
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