by John G. on 15 Jan 2013 12:48
The Bronze without swords appears to be an unmarked "one pc." (meaning the LW eagles are struck as part of the badge, not sodered on as in "every other version"......something some would still be "leary" of (skeptical)....but it is in "Niemanns #3", pretty much as "this version".
The Bronze with swords does seem to conform to the 2nd-type "L/11" version, but doesn't appear to be marked....I'm not enough of an expert to say if there are unmarked "L/11s" or not....I'm not liking the quality and color....but that might be a photographic effect.
Noone can be 100% based on just photos.....and these "could be alot better"..... I'd now go to the next step and post them (better pictures, too!) on other speciality forums (WAF, Gents., etc.) for opinions.
Sorry I can't be more specific....you should study the threads about "Spainish Crosses" on the WAF....they show nearly every recognized variant and often every known repro., but you'll need to join and need to put in the effort.
Good luck...
John G.