Opinions on BWB

[grimlin13]

Any opinions on this unmarked BWB? I noticed that there isn`t a rivet on the backside of the helmet. Anyone know who the maker might be. Thanks for any help.
grimlin13

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[John G.]

No problem with this well used BWB.....I'm not sure, poss. traces of a mark on the reverse, on the helmet "skirt"....but it may be a defect or "lint".....if without a marking, I couldn't tell you who the maker was.....maybe someone can....but the badge itself is real....salty, but has "character".

I have no idear what you mean by "rivet" (?)....no 18, 39, or 44 pattern Wound Badge has a rivet? ......(unless some jewelers made private purchase screwback or something..??..)

Anyway... good collecting....
John G.

[grimlin13]

The rivet that I`m talking about is the one that is suppose to be on the helmet in the back. I have circled the one on the side towards the front and circled where the one at the back is supposed to be.
grimlin13

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[freddiefro]

I have no idear what you mean by "rivet" (?)....no 18, 39, or 44 pattern Wound Badge has a rivet? ......(unless some jewelers made private purchase screwback or something..?)

John G.

I believe grimlin13 is refering to a rivet on the back of the embossed helmet itself, not actually through the medal as a "screw-back." Below (from John R. Angolia's "For Führer und Fatherland: Military Awards of the Third Reich") seems to show a rivet at the back of the helmet for the award in Silver. The award in gold (from "Nazi Regalia" by Jack Pia) also seems to show a rivet. The Wound Badge in Black (from my own collection) also has a rivet. Axis History Factbook (http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=1815) shows all three (Black, Silver & Gold) with a rivet. However, I have seen them without a rivet as well…perhaps differences in manufacturer's specifications?

Fred

[John G.]

The rear liner pin "never occurred" to me.....since it's not a rivet....but you're probably right.
John G.

[grimlin13]

So,since it appears that Fred has seen a Wound Badge without a "pin liner" on the back of the embossed helmet as well and that it could be due to the difference in a manufacturers specifications, it should be good. Right? I wonder if anyone has ever researched the "Missing Rear Liner Pin" Wound Badges? Maybe it would be a way to eventually identify the maker. Just a thought.
grimlin13

[freddiefro]

So,since it appears that Fred has seen a Wound Badge without a "pin liner" on the back of the embossed helmet as well and that it could be due to the difference in a manufacturers specifications, it should be good. Right?

gremlin13,
Because I've seen a Wound Badge without a rear "pin" could also mean that I was viewing a reproduction. I know that many of the 36/39 Wound Badges (Spanish War) had no "pin." Perhaps it's one of them. I am not as knowledgeable as the experts on this forum and only have a small collection. I would defer to the members of this forum, who have studied this in much more detail.

Fred

[William Kramer]

Hello there,

Even without the rear helmet rivet I have no problem with the badge that started this thread.

William Kramer