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Opinions on BWB

Postby grimlin13 on 20 Feb 2013 01:59

Any opinions on this unmarked BWB? I noticed that there isn`t a rivet on the backside of the helmet. Anyone know who the maker might be. Thanks for any help.
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Re: Opinions on BWB

Postby John G. on 20 Feb 2013 12:29

No problem with this well used BWB.....I'm not sure, poss. traces of a mark on the reverse, on the helmet "skirt"....but it may be a defect or "lint".....if without a marking, I couldn't tell you who the maker was.....maybe someone can....but the badge itself is real....salty, but has "character".

I have no idear what you mean by "rivet" (?)....no 18, 39, or 44 pattern Wound Badge has a rivet? ......(unless some jewelers made private purchase screwback or something..??..)

Anyway... good collecting....
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Re: Opinions on BWB

Postby grimlin13 on 20 Feb 2013 23:59

The rivet that I`m talking about is the one that is suppose to be on the helmet in the back. I have circled the one on the side towards the front and circled where the one at the back is supposed to be.
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Re: Opinions on BWB

Postby freddiefro on 21 Feb 2013 16:15

John G. wrote:I have no idear what you mean by "rivet" (?)....no 18, 39, or 44 pattern Wound Badge has a rivet? ......(unless some jewelers made private purchase screwback or something..?)

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I believe grimlin13 is refering to a rivet on the back of the embossed helmet itself, not actually through the medal as a "screw-back." Below (from John R. Angolia's "For Führer und Fatherland: Military Awards of the Third Reich") seems to show a rivet at the back of the helmet for the award in Silver. The award in gold (from "Nazi Regalia" by Jack Pia) also seems to show a rivet. The Wound Badge in Black (from my own collection) also has a rivet. Axis History Factbook (http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=1815) shows all three (Black, Silver & Gold) with a rivet. However, I have seen them without a rivet as well…perhaps differences in manufacturer's specifications?

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Re: Opinions on BWB

Postby John G. on 21 Feb 2013 18:29

The rear liner pin "never occurred" to me.....since it's not a rivet....but you're probably right.
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Re: Opinions on BWB

Postby grimlin13 on 22 Feb 2013 07:25

So,since it appears that Fred has seen a Wound Badge without a "pin liner" on the back of the embossed helmet as well and that it could be due to the difference in a manufacturers specifications, it should be good. Right? I wonder if anyone has ever researched the "Missing Rear Liner Pin" Wound Badges? Maybe it would be a way to eventually identify the maker. Just a thought.
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Re: Opinions on BWB

Postby freddiefro on 22 Feb 2013 13:50

grimlin13 wrote:So,since it appears that Fred has seen a Wound Badge without a "pin liner" on the back of the embossed helmet as well and that it could be due to the difference in a manufacturers specifications, it should be good. Right?

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Because I've seen a Wound Badge without a rear "pin" could also mean that I was viewing a reproduction. I know that many of the 36/39 Wound Badges (Spanish War) had no "pin." Perhaps it's one of them. I am not as knowledgeable as the experts on this forum and only have a small collection. I would defer to the members of this forum, who have studied this in much more detail.

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Re: Opinions on BWB

Postby William Kramer on 23 Feb 2013 17:57

Hello there,

Even without the rear helmet rivet I have no problem with the badge that started this thread.

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