Question: NSDAP No. 4802 Eisfeld

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Question: NSDAP No. 4802 Eisfeld

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Post by unfredd » 01 Apr 2016, 15:14

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This badge was brought back from WW2 by my Dad (3rd Armored Division). With help, I've learned that it was awarded to Walter Eisfeld, SS Commandant at Neuengamme. Question: I've not seen other similar badges with the chain attached. Was the purpose of the chain and clasp to attach to another ribbon or medal?

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Post by freddiefro » 05 Apr 2016, 16:00

This appears to be the smaller (25mm) version of the badge. Eisfeld died 3.Apr.1940…could a widow perhaps adorn and wear the badge as a "keepsake" of her husband? I found nothing in Angolia or the "Organisationsbuch der NSDAP" to say one way or another. Opinions, please!

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Re: Question: NSDAP No. 4802 Eisfeld

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Post by John G. » 05 Apr 2016, 17:25

freddiefro wrote:This appears to be the smaller (25mm) version of the badge. Eisfeld died 3.Apr.1940…could a widow perhaps adorn and wear the badge as a "keepsake" of her husband? I found nothing in Angola or the "Organisationsbuch der NSDAP" to say one way or another. Opinions, please!

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Probably Not possible.... if she was a Golden Party Badge recip. she'd have her own, and if not.... she would be in SERIOUS trouble if she wore a GPB, someone else's or not ... you were supposed to have your "award booklet" on you to verify ID and numbers, etc.,.... don't really know how strict they were but no one would have chanced it I'm sure.

The smaller badge is simply the "Civilian Clothes" version .... they were notorious for coming "un-fastened" so Eisfeld simply had a safety chain added... not that unusual. Very nice IDed GPB, by the way!
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Post by freddiefro » 05 Apr 2016, 17:35

As always, thank you John!

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Post by Sejanus » 06 Apr 2016, 02:21

John G. wrote:
freddiefro wrote:This appears to be the smaller (25mm) version of the badge. Eisfeld died 3.Apr.1940…could a widow perhaps adorn and wear the badge as a "keepsake" of her husband? I found nothing in Angola or the "Organisationsbuch der NSDAP" to say one way or another. Opinions, please!

Fred
Probably Not possible.... if she was a Golden Party Badge recip. she'd have her own, and if not.... she would be in SERIOUS trouble if she wore a GPB, someone else's or not ... you were supposed to have your "award booklet" on you to verify ID and numbers, etc.,.... don't really know how strict they were but no one would have chanced it I'm sure.

The smaller badge is simply the "Civilian Clothes" version .... they were notorious for coming "un-fastened" so Eisfeld simply had a safety chain added... not that unusual. Very nice IDed GPB, by the way!
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I was curious if (in general) the chain may have also been used to hold other insignias? Similar to what is being worn on the lapel of the man standing behind Hitler in the photo below?

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Interesting that there was a smaller version of the GPB for civilian clothes and that a safety chain is not that unusual. Good to know if I ever run into one of these. Thanks for the information!

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Re: Question: NSDAP No. 4802 Eisfeld

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Post by John G. » 07 Apr 2016, 13:20

The lapel chain (in the photo) is for/of mini-medals & awards- much different and 'heavier" that the "safety chain" on the GPB.... you wouldn't attach awards to the GPB- just wouldn't be allowed I'm assuming. The safety chain isn't common... but certainly known, it's a jeweler's add-on (and easily lost or removed, depending on how it's attached).

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Re: Question: NSDAP No. 4802 Eisfeld

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Post by Sejanus » 12 Apr 2016, 04:58

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for the information, John.

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