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Military Auxiliary ID Documents

#1

Post by seahawk11 » 14 Jan 2007, 17:34

[Moderator's note: Split from the thread "Helferin Items" at:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=96468 ]


This post is especially for Vikki, as I really admire her helferin stuff...here's an item I finally pulled the trigger on.
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Post by Vikki » 15 Jan 2007, 04:26

Sweet, Tony!!! I won't even ask what kind of ammunition you had to use..... Your Ausweis is especially interesting to me because of the differences in the format from the one I posted here earlier (reposted below), which I got as part of a set (including the Luftwaffe cap pictured, and several photos, including a tinted portrait) from Chris Mason several years ago.

At the risk of turning this into a mutual admiration thread :D..... I also really admire the papers you've posted in the Women's section. Your sharing of your collection is always a great source of information!

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Post by Matt Gibbs » 03 Apr 2007, 22:08

Hello;
With the album of photos and docs I got in early 2007 came this document to the person who's photo album it is. She entered the service in August 1942. Her boyfriend whom she later married was in the army pre-war and later transferred into the Luftwaffe. They both survived the war. She actually left the army and was discharged [these papers are all part of the group] in September 1945, so perhaps as a person with clerical skills she was kept on for some reason. Her papers of release are from the US Zone.
Interestingly the book is altered inside in ink when she was married and her surname was changed. It contains details of all her uniform scale of issue and her postings.
For those interested her uniform issue was given to her on 9.9.42:
Costume:1
Blouse-tunic:1
Grey blouse shirts: 2
White blouse shirts: 1
Binder [tie?] : 1
Dienstnadel : 1
Stockings : 3 pr
Urbeitstittel [ok what is this, the work dress?] : 2
White collar for above : 3
Hat : 1
Woolen jacket : 1
Cloak [coat?] : 1
Umhang [for above] : 1
Service satchel [bag]: 1

but she recieved these the day before on 8.9.42
Gasmask: 1
Unknonw but one of the end black colums there is a rubber stamped word that looks like it might be Lesantin -whatever this is and then the number 2.

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Post by Vikki » 30 May 2007, 22:52

Matt, I thought you needed an Einsatzbuch für Stabshelferinnen too, for the pair.... :wink:

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Post by Vikki » 31 May 2007, 02:02

Matt Gibbs wrote:Urbeitstittel [ok what is this, the work dress?] : 2
White collar for above : 3
Yes, the Arbeitskittel :) or Dienstkittel was the work smock, and changeable collars were issued to keep their neck areas clean.

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Post by Matt Gibbs » 03 Jun 2007, 21:11

Danke Vikki, the clerk who filled this in was obviously in a hurry to get to lunch that day ;)
Removable collars makes sense like British Other ranks shirts.
Love the Stabs ID.
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#7

Post by seahawk11 » 04 Jun 2007, 21:51

Those are too cool...I have to look for years for items like these.

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Post by Vikki » 07 Jun 2007, 00:04

So do I, Tony.....Only maybe I've been looking for more years than you. :wink:

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Post by Vikki » 01 Jul 2007, 18:39

Here’s an ID document I picked up recently. It’s a Lohnbuch für Reichsangestellte und Reichsarbeiter (Paybook for Reich Employees and Workers). From the title it appears as if it’s a civilian document, and in fact I found it in the dealer’s stack of assorted civilian Kennkartes, Ausweises, etc. But on the first page it identifies the holder as a Flum.-Helferin, the abbreviation for a Flugmeldediensthelferin, an auxiliary with the Aircraft Reporting Service. Auxiliaries of this service performed such roles as operating radar and sound detection equipment.

Although women had worked for the military in clerical and signals roles previously, the Luftnachrichten Helferinnenschaft (Corps of Air Signals Auxiliaries) was formed on 26 February 1941. It was initially formed from the Flugmeldedienst (Air Reporting Service) and the Luftwarndienst (Air Warning Service). This woman’s Lohnbuch was issued only weeks after the establishment of the Service, on 17 March 1941.

On the same date, she was also issued uniform clothing (written sideways on the right hand page in the third picture):

1 Fliegermütze
1 Mantel
1 Jacke, 1 Rock } Kostüm (Uniform jacket and skirt)
1 Bluse u. Schleife
1 Gasmaske Gr. 2

(She was also issued an Erkennungsmarke [“dogtag”] as noted on the first page.)

About a week later, on 25 March 41, she also received a Kleiderkarte (clothing ration card) in order to be able to purchase other needed items.

The overall layout of the Lohnbuch is very close to that of a standard Heer Soldbuch. It may have followed that standard design because the Ln.-Helferinnenschaft had been officially organized so recently. Its title indicates the Helferins’ status as civilian employees rather than military personnel, particularly in these very early days of the Corps, for example, before female auxiliaries became subject to the draft and were granted combatant status in 1944.
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Post by km-spain » 15 Jul 2007, 19:15

Marinehelferin ID documentation lot, the personalausweis with the ID tag, desmobilization 1945 documents, the signal cours booklet, the broochs, ..., a rare lot.

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#11

Post by Vikki » 18 Jul 2007, 05:28

Again, a great set! Thanks for posting it here!

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#12

Post by Vikki » 27 Oct 2007, 08:39

Just as female personnel of the Flugmeldedienst were taken into the Luftwaffe as part of the newly formed Luftnachrichten Helferinnenschaft in early 1941, so also were women in the Luftschutzwarndienst (Air Defense Warning Service) later, in June of the same year. (And that’s why I’m posting this ID document here, in the Women’s Military ID Documents thread, rather than as a civilian document, as it would seem to be at first glance.)

Frau Arndt had been a saleswoman, but joined the Luftschutzwarndienst in 1939, when she was 21. She was originally enlisted as a Fernsprecherin (telephone operator), but her later training and assignment to units with the designation LS Warnleitung suggest that she may have held some sort of leadership role (?).
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And she was awarded the Luftschutz-Ehrenzeichen II Stufe:
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Post by Vikki » 27 Oct 2007, 08:52

There are the normal pages of male uniform parts and equipment, most of which she wasn’t issued…..

And then, the smaller insert pages, with a special stamp heading for the other items---the specifically female ones—that she was issued (Kostümjacke, Kostümrock, Dienstkittel, Diensttasche, etc.). The stamp and issuance (magically :D ) transform a normal (male) Luftschutz-Dienstbuch into a female one:
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And she received none of those uniform items until 12.1.1943, a few days before her 15.1.43 posting to Aarhus (Denmark)—in line with the regulation that only Helferinnen stationed outside Germany were to be issued uniforms. It’s equally interesting that
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Post by Vikki » 27 Oct 2007, 08:55

SO, I write too much, even on captions for pictures :? :

And she received none of those uniform items until 12.1.1943, a few days before her 15.1.43 posting to Aarhus (Denmark)—in line with the regulation that only Helferinnen stationed outside Germany were to be issued uniforms. It’s equally interesting that she kept them after she appears to have returned to Germany.

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Post by Vikki » 02 Aug 2008, 20:41

In addition to the Ausweis or Einsatzbuch she was given, a woman's enlistment to work as an auxiliary for the military was normally noted also in her Arbeitsbuch. For example, the woman whose Einsatzbuch für Stabshelferinnen is shown above also had the transfer to work for the military shown in her Arbeitsbuch. She first worked for the Army as a Lazarett Helferin beginning on 8.4.43. Although she changed to working as a Stabshelferin on 1.5.43 according to her Arbeitsbuch, she didn't receive this Einsatzbuch until 23.9.1943.
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