Knight's Cross Holders Identification
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Theo Weissenberger
Thank you John!
Best regards/ josef
Best regards/ josef
Source: Detlev Niemann.
This was for sale, Oberst RKT on 06.04.1945, DKiG, Silver wound badge.
There were no award of Heer RK on 06.04.45. And the "6"s on the shoulder boards are a bit of a puzzle to me. However, the signature looks like GenLt "Reichert". A guess would be Obst Enno Erich v Limburg-Hetlingen, Kmdr, GrRgt 731, RK 03.05.45, DKiG.
Cheers
Freiherr
This was for sale, Oberst RKT on 06.04.1945, DKiG, Silver wound badge.
There were no award of Heer RK on 06.04.45. And the "6"s on the shoulder boards are a bit of a puzzle to me. However, the signature looks like GenLt "Reichert". A guess would be Obst Enno Erich v Limburg-Hetlingen, Kmdr, GrRgt 731, RK 03.05.45, DKiG.
Enno-Erich von Limburg-Hetlingen , unofficial RKT / AHF id
Cheers
Freiherr
think, you are absolutely right, Freiherr !
quotation of my 711. ID list from "awardholders/unit" thread
in short : Veit Scherzer is referring of absolutely no hints on a KC proposal nor a confirmation of an award.
concerning the "6" : according Scherzer (page 130, end of text, additional info) von Limburg-Hetlingen in 1939 was Bataillons-Kommandeur im IR 6 !
so, as Kdr Gren.Rgt 731, was he wearing the "6" of his old Rgt in memory ?
possible, though don't think so.
as a fromer collector of shoulder boards, I can tell you, you can find "mixed" shoulder boards, resp. devices/numbers on the market, some of them you will recognize the numbers are added at a later date and doesn't fit with the board. Sometimes it is impossible to say, if this board was originally worn like it looks today.
So, to me it is imaginable that there were Oberst shoulder boards available and a pair of "6" and the family or someone else did put them together (?)
Bernd
quotation of my 711. ID list from "awardholders/unit" thread
and very interesting, this case and now this Ritterkreuz entry !!711. Infanterie – Division
(formed may 1941 ; occupation duty at the Channel Coast/15. Armee ; action : Normandie, june/july 1944 ;
refitted sept-dec 1944 in the Netherlands ; since dec 1944 : Ungary)
total : 4 KC / including 1 unofficial
Stab :
1. Reichert, Josef 09.12.1944 Generalleutnant Kdr 711. Inf.Div
Grenadier – Regiment 731 :
2. Ließmann, Helmut 03.11.1944 Hauptmann d.R. Führer III./Gren.Rgt 731
3. Limburg-Hetlingen von, Enno-Erich 03.05.1945 Oberst Kdr Gren.Rgt 731
Grenadier – Regiment 744 :
4. Post, Eduard 28.02.1945 Hauptmann d.R. Kdr III./Gren.Rgt 744
in short : Veit Scherzer is referring of absolutely no hints on a KC proposal nor a confirmation of an award.
concerning the "6" : according Scherzer (page 130, end of text, additional info) von Limburg-Hetlingen in 1939 was Bataillons-Kommandeur im IR 6 !
so, as Kdr Gren.Rgt 731, was he wearing the "6" of his old Rgt in memory ?
possible, though don't think so.
as a fromer collector of shoulder boards, I can tell you, you can find "mixed" shoulder boards, resp. devices/numbers on the market, some of them you will recognize the numbers are added at a later date and doesn't fit with the board. Sometimes it is impossible to say, if this board was originally worn like it looks today.
So, to me it is imaginable that there were Oberst shoulder boards available and a pair of "6" and the family or someone else did put them together (?)
Bernd
You are right, Mark, possible
might be an over interpretation I was going through ; reason is my impression that one "6" is darker ("Grünspan") than the other ; therefore the conclusion that they could be different ones.
And - he must have been Oberst while assigned to (then) Grenadier-Regiment 6 (?)
Alex, you know ? Someone has the assignments of von Limburg-Hetlingen ?
The issue of the KC award itself it the other challenge here :roll:
Bernd
might be an over interpretation I was going through ; reason is my impression that one "6" is darker ("Grünspan") than the other ; therefore the conclusion that they could be different ones.
And - he must have been Oberst while assigned to (then) Grenadier-Regiment 6 (?)
Alex, you know ? Someone has the assignments of von Limburg-Hetlingen ?
The issue of the KC award itself it the other challenge here :roll:
Bernd