Awardholders / unit

[USAF1986]

Bernd,

RE Ritscher - very interesting thread! Definitely a classic Dietrich award; he is not listed at all in Scheibert. I too agree a "Dietrich award" note would be in order.

I don't think the 15 DKiG and 7 DKiS bestowals classified as Dietrich awards have been examined by us. A review of the W-SS DKiS holders in Yerger and Scheibert shows no 06.05.1945 bestowals; the latest award date in Yerger is 02.05.1945 and 30.04.1945 in Scheibert. Does anyone have a list of the "15 and 7" Dietrich awards?

Best regards,
Shawn

15 DKiG and 7 DKiS awards by Sepp Dietrich with date 06.05.1945

German Cross in Gold
Ritscher, Fritz, 06.05.1945, SS-Obersturmführer, SS-Flak-Abt. 12 "Hitlerjugend"
See here about this case : http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 5#p1250325

German Cross in Silver

[USAF1986]

I had previously listed these DKiS holders on page 128, but I’m not certain if they were ever classified by higher headquarters of assignment:

Bach, Curt, 13.04.1943, Major d.R., Kf.Abt. 686
Krüger, Dr. Richard, 05.09.1944, Oberstarzt d.R.z.V., Armee-San.Abt. 522

Best regards,
Shawn

[USAF1986]

Can anyone place this German Cross in Silver holder? Possibly Nachricten-Abteilung 253 / 253. Inf.Div.?

Freigang, Willi, 18.08.1944, Oberfunkmeister, Stab N. 253

Best regards,
Shawn

[W.Vermeer]

Patzwall/Scherzer list Freigang, Willi as Nachrichten-Abteilung / 253.Infanterie-Division

[Bernd R]

I had previously listed these DKiS holders on page 128, but I’m not certain if they were ever classified by higher headquarters of assignment:

Bach, Curt, 13.04.1943, Major d.R., Kf.Abt. 686
Krüger, Dr. Richard, 05.09.1944, Oberstarzt d.R.z.V., Armee-San.Abt. 522

Best regards,
Shawn

All of the Heeresgruppen-, Armee-, and Korpstruppen - including a few omissions which I was doing later - are shifted to [page 80] or [page 105] if no assignment was known actually.
Krüger, San.Abt. 522, is listed with Pz.AOK 2 , and
Bach is listed with HGr. Afrika (once renamed, one and the same unit) :
Bach, Curt, 13.04.1943, Major d.R., Kf.Abt. 686
[Nachschub-Kolonnen-Abt. 686 (Betriebsstoff) ]

Bernd

[Bernd R]

Thanks, Wilco, I will add him to that division.
It seems, that ww2.awards does also not have listed those group of 15 DKiG and 7 DKiS holders we talked of above ? No appearance in the literature ?

Bernd

[Bernd R]

Here is an EBS holder of the 294. Inf.Div. (page 17) that I overlooked:

Wilhelm, Werner, 27.08.1943, Oberleutnant, Stoßtr.Kp. 294

Best regards,
Shawn

Added. Yes, agree - strong hint that this was a divisional Stoßtrupp-Kompanie built in the field :

DKiG - Wilhelm, Werner, 11.02.1943, Leutnant, II./Gren.Rgt. 513

Gen.Kdo. Rothkirch , DKiS, is corrected.
Militärbefehlshaber, DKiS, are all added to [page 80].

Still on the current open points agenda : Tannert, EBS ; Lindner, AU ; Borrmann, Stug.Abt. 177/KC

Bernd

[Bernd R]

Bernd,

RE Ritscher - very interesting thread! Definitely a classic Dietrich award; he is not listed at all in Scheibert. I too agree a "Dietrich award" note would be in order.

I don't think the 15 DKiG and 7 DKiS bestowals classified as Dietrich awards have been examined by us. A review of the W-SS DKiS holders in Yerger and Scheibert shows no 06.05.1945 bestowals; the latest award date in Yerger is 02.05.1945 and 30.04.1945 in Scheibert. Does anyone have a list of the "15 and 7" Dietrich awards?

Best regards,
Shawn

Shawn,
Yes, a really good example. Thanks for the short analysis.
I thought a few possibly trickled through during the process. It is an interesting fact on its own that they apparently are not presented in the awards literature.

As we decided to include the "unofficial" KC cases, both for completeness and not to suppress anything which is controversial and in discussion, it would be consequent indeed to list those other awards, too.
Especially facing the fact of the Ritscher documents, clearly stating the award (one side of the medal). So, other quality than fakes, we can just ignore.

If it turns out that those group is not compiled anywhere it will be a nice puzzle to put this together.

Best regards
Bernd

[W.Vermeer]

It seems, that ww2.awards does also not have listed those group of 15 DKiG and 7 DKiS holders we talked of above ? No appearance in the literature ?

Perhaps one or two could by now be among them, but I do not think so. I have not yet been able to find them as a group in literature. Very occasionally one seems to pop up somewhere.

[W.Vermeer]

Ther is one DKiG holder that is not mentioned in one of the listings I think. At least I have not been able to find him.

Haedge, Karl-Ludwig, 18th Nov. 1944, Leutnant
Unit is not certain. Het was finally in Soviet captivity where his DKiG was inscripted with
HAEDGE, Oblt
Sturm-Rgt
4. FallschJg Div
FJ Rgt 28
10 FJ Div

But he received his DKiG for the battle at Nettuno with a unit as part of the 3.Panzergrenadier-Division.
see also http://www.ww2awards.com/person/35538


Image copyright http://www.ww2awards.com / Thomas Steinke/Willi Schumacher

[Bernd R]

Thanks Wilco, very nice and interesting one !!
The Fsch.Jäg. DKiG are not ready and on the agenda for phase 2.

As part of the short Bio sketch of him I stumbled upon I. Btl./Sturm-Rgt. Reinhardt
Attempting to fix the unit of Orth and its assignment in winter 1941/42

Knight's Cross
Orth, Heinrich 18.03.1942 Oberfeldwebel Zugführer i. d. 4./LL-Sturm.Rgt 1
[ / Luftwaffen-Gefechtsverband Schlemm / XXXX. AK / AOK 4]

which also plays around the Schaikowka airfield, etc., we had this interesting and helpful thread :
I./LL-Sturm.Rgt 1 in Russia 1941
Reinhardt is not mentioned ; this would be new and another variant. Might be worth to cross-check this time period for the colleagues.

Best regards
Bernd

[Bernd R]

From the batch of last Heer DKiS additions by Shawn (on page 105 those not yet added to sections), a few here due to several reasons - new/interesting units , unit designations given slightly different to the official ones - new sections, etc.

added to the 18. Art.Div. entry on [page 31]

Artillerie-Division z.b.V. 312
[Nov 1943 by renaming of Harko 312, area HGr. Süd ; never reached full formation ; Aug 1944 renamed Harko 312 again]

German Cross in Silver
Raithel, Willy (Wilhelm), 02.06.1944, Generalleutnant, Kdr. Art.Div. zbV 312

added to [page 58]

Division z.b.V. 539
[called also 539. Div. / 539. ID ; divisional staff at Prag, to command various and changing LdSchtz.Btle in service in Böhmen under WB Böhmen-Mähren]
German Cross in Silver
Speich, Paul, 02.06.1944, Generalleutnant, Kdr. 539. Div. Prag

added to [page 80]

Kdr. der Kriegsgefangenen z.b.V. [im Generalgouvernement, Lublin]
German Cross in Silver
Wittas, Paul, 21.02.1945, Generalleutnant, Kdr.d.Kgf. zbV
[Paul Ritter von Wittas, Austrian]

Bernd

[Bernd R]

added to [page 80], in front of LXVIII. AK

Sonderstab F (= Felmy)
(* 28.05.1941, for Militärmission Irak ; divided 10.09.1942 : Führungsstab -> Gen.Kdo. z.b.V. (23.09.1942), which became Gen.Kdo. z.b.V. LXVIII (Apr 43), resp. LXVIII. (68.) AK (Sep 43) and Regimentsstab z.b.V. -> with the Gen.Kdo./Korps.Kdo)
for further info :
http://forum.balsi.de/index.php?topic=3469.0
http://forum.panzer-archiv.de/viewtopic ... ight=felmy
per Bundesarchiv most / nearly all documentation lost
http://www.bundesarchiv.de/foxpublic/E8 ... linfo.html
German Cross in Silver
Füssel, Ernst-August, 10.01.1945, Hauptmann (W) d.R., Sonderstab F

LXVIII. AK

Swords
Müller, Friedrich-Wilhelm 27.01.1945 [128. Sw] General der Infanterie K.G. LXVIII. AK

German Cross in Gold
Felmy, Hellmuth, 16.01.1945, General der Flieger, K.G. LXVIII. AK

Sonderstab F(elmy) that late in 1945 !?

Bernd

[Bernd R]

added to the Brigaden section [page 20]

(verstärkte) Schnelle Brigade West (931) / OB West
Schnelle Brigade West / Schnelle Brigade 931 / Gepanzerte Artillerie-Brigade West (931)
[nucleus to form 21. Pz.Div. (Neu) on 15 July 1943]
German Cross in Silver
Feuchtinger, Edgar, 15.07.1943, Oberst, Gp.Art.Brig

it appears that there were a lot unit designations in use !?
I tend to name it Schnelle Brigade West. Did the numbering (931) really happen or was it just planned ?
Just to be sure - Feuchtinger was Kdr. of the entire brigade, not the gep. Art.Rgt. only ?

Bernd

[Jan-Hendrik]

Evolution of Schnelle Brigade West

Jan-Hendrik