Luftflotte2 wrote:Great looking
sake bottles and cups. Apparently some select
units had their own made, and then there was a non-specific type for others.
From a recently finished sale by seller yoicho29 …
hisashi wrote: Large military organization always makes a huge market … Vendors offered localized ones (say, with the characters of '82nd infantry regiment') and easy-order plans (filling names etc. into ready-made stereotypes).
Would there have been especially fine sets for ranking officers when they retired?
Would many or most of the commemorative
saké bottles and cups date from 1930s, because of later wartime austerity? As noted earlier from author Kondō Hiroshi (
Saké: a Drinker's Guide), production and quality of
saké itself was lowered by the war.
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hisashi wrote:Sewer King wrote:These
two red lacquer bowls (approx. 9cm diameter) are among displays of airmen's equipment from around the world at the Smithsonian Institution. From the National Air and Space Museum (NASM)
Steven S. Udvar-Hazy Center at Chantilly, Virginia.
I found it. It is a
natsume (棗). A tea powder case.
So the largest two character was an artfully handwritten '茶棗'
Many thanks for your research Hisashi, especially since I and most others probably know only little about tea ceremony. I had imagined that this earlier photo of
Navy floatplane aviators showed it.
The NASM caption is even more incorrect then. Tea ware like
natsume seems a relatively fine thing. But actual rice bowls, such as an officer might buy –- were they usually something more ordinary, and less a fine item boxed like this?
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I have the impression that the IJA’s rolling field kitchens were not often seen in the Pacific war, because they are not in photographs. Nor did the Americans seem to find one, to include it in their
Handbook of Japanese Military Forces. Of course those are not reliable ways to know, since there are many photos I haven’t yet seen, or are not more widely published.
Could the following be more reasons why?
- Rolling kitchens were unsuited for combat on islands or in jungle? Motor- or horse-drawn power, fuel, and smoke are problems in those areas, even in the rear.
Supply plans often relied on local foodstuffs or forage. Subunits cooked their own food in their mess kits.
Kitchens mattered little where Japanese Army forces went to defensive fighting after 1943-44, and many were often short of rations?
In any army, rolling kitchens are typically pictured with the infantry. Wouldn’t they have been part of the IJA tank units too –- maybe with their motorized train?
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drewthefan wrote:Is there any other specific information on [the IJA rolling field kitchen]? What the features were? How many men could it feed? What was the official designation?
- from Gordon Rottman's "Japanese Infantryman 1937-45: Sword of the Empire," Osprey Warrior Series volume 95. page 46
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Akira Takizawa wrote:It is called Yesen Suijisha (Field kitchen vehicle). It had four iron pots on the vehicle. A pair of Yesen Suijisha could feed about 1,000 men of battalion.
Thank you Taki, it helps! I am trying to build a copy of one...
This sounds ambitious, at any level. It would be impressive to scratch-build a replica IJA field kitchen.
- Drew, are you considering a scale model? One that can be disassembled to show inside?
If sources are limited, even drawing up construction plans would seem a challenge by itself. Besides the one photo in Rottman’s Osprey volume, are there few other close-up photos useful for re-construction?
- There might be some comparison to interest in German Army field kitchens (Feldkuechen). Note that there are no reproduction ones, according to an AHF thread about re-enacted Heer field kitchens. One unit is fortunate enough to operate an actual, original one salvaged from the Netherlands. Another unit makes use of a Czech Army equivalent, which is reasonably close.
Anyone who could build a good, working reproduction of a German field kitchen would draw great interest. But it would also be quite expensive and a job to maintain, transport, and house it. There are many photos of them to use as sources, even here in this Forum. Recently there was even a specialized book about Feldkuechen.
Private reconstruction of a Japanese field kitchen would take still more research, work, time, and craft.
Could the body of a
Yesen Suijisha could be dismounted from its wheels, and set up on the ground?
Might there be any surviving example or model in the Japan Ground Self-Defense Force Museum?
-– Alan