Where's Martin Bormann ?
Where's Martin Bormann ?
How do you think - what happened with Borman ?
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K.Kocjancic
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KIA or suicide in Berlin.
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/biography/Bormann.htmlIn December 1972, excavations dug up two skeletons near the Reichstag in West Berlin and, in early 1973, a West German forensic expert used dental records to determine that one was almost certainly that of Bormann. In early May 1973, the DNA was matched to that of an 83-year old relative of Bormann. The other skeleton was identified as Hitler’s doctor, Ludwig Stumfegger. The two men had apparently been found by a Russian soldier and had taken cyanide. In April 1973, a West German court formally pronounced Bormann dead.
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Helly Angel
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Bormann is Died And died in Berlin in May 2-3, 1945.
Never existed a IV Reich or Bormann in Southamerica or spain or Vatican or in the Moon.
The route was this:
He died here:
View looking north from the center of the now-deserted Invalidienstrasse bridge. Railroad tracks formerly ran through this overgrown gully. Sheds on the right (apparently post-war) sheltered waiting passengers. It was here that Artur Axmann found the bodies of Martin Bormann and Ludwig Stumpfegger.
Never existed a IV Reich or Bormann in Southamerica or spain or Vatican or in the Moon.
The route was this:
He died here:
View looking north from the center of the now-deserted Invalidienstrasse bridge. Railroad tracks formerly ran through this overgrown gully. Sheds on the right (apparently post-war) sheltered waiting passengers. It was here that Artur Axmann found the bodies of Martin Bormann and Ludwig Stumpfegger.
Having seen what all that has happend in Afghanistan and Iraq, I will very much doubt any claims of Bormann's death unless there is some sold evidence for it. If his remains are there, a DNA test can be carried out. Ditto for Himmler's remains. 
Has someone's read Hugh Thomas's book The Unlikely Death of Henrich Himmler?
Has someone's read Hugh Thomas's book The Unlikely Death of Henrich Himmler?
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K.Kocjancic
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If you read my previous post, you'll see that DNA testing were done and the body (remains) were ID as Bormann.August wrote:Having seen what all that has happend in Afghanistan and Iraq, I will very much doubt any claims of Bormann's death unless there is some sold evidence for it. If his remains are there, a DNA test can be carried out. Ditto for Himmler's remains.
Has someone's read Hugh Thomas's book The Unlikely Death of Henrich Himmler?
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Helly Angel
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Bormann was injuried by the shoot of a bazooka against a German Tank where Bormann was hidden. He was very injuried and in the last moment to avoid had been captured live by the russians he took a cyanure capsule.
That´s all.
There is not mistery behind this, there is not Bormann in Argentine or in Paraguay, etc. Bormann is not the webmaster of this forum
In the book "The last nazi" the bio about mengele, the writer tell us how he meet Ladislas Farago (The autor of "Bormann and the IV Reich in America") in a Party and asked him why he wrote about his meeting with a Bormann dying in Paraguay. Ladislas smiled and answered with the true: it was a lie to sell books because the III Reich it still alive for the atracttion in the people.
No more.
DNA test closed the veredict in 1989.
That´s all.
There is not mistery behind this, there is not Bormann in Argentine or in Paraguay, etc. Bormann is not the webmaster of this forum
In the book "The last nazi" the bio about mengele, the writer tell us how he meet Ladislas Farago (The autor of "Bormann and the IV Reich in America") in a Party and asked him why he wrote about his meeting with a Bormann dying in Paraguay. Ladislas smiled and answered with the true: it was a lie to sell books because the III Reich it still alive for the atracttion in the people.
No more.
DNA test closed the veredict in 1989.
Kocjo writes
I did not know the DNA technique was available in early 70s. I thought it was a late 80s development.
Helly Angel says
Thanks to both.
I stand corrected.If you read my previous post, you'll see that DNA testing were done and the body (remains) were ID as Bormann.
I did not know the DNA technique was available in early 70s. I thought it was a late 80s development.
Helly Angel says
Yes, the story ends with that. They must do the same with Himmler and clear the lingering doubts.DNA test closed the veredict in 1989.
Thanks to both.
The skeleton of Martin Bormann was offered to Bormann's children, but they refused to take it. The children weren't allowed to have the skeleton cremated, so they left it to German public prosecutors.
From Martin Bormann jr's book Leben gegen Schatten
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Polona
Als im Sommer danach die sterblichen Überreste uns Bormann-Kinder übergeben werden sollten zur Bestattung, lehnte unser Anwalt das ab, denn diese Übergabe war verbunden mit unannehmbaren Bedienungen: Eine Einäscherung und Urnenbestattung wurden verboten, die Gebeine sollten der Generalstaatsanwaltschaft zur Exhumierung jederzeit zur Verfügung stehen.
From Martin Bormann jr's book Leben gegen Schatten
Regards,
Polona
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Helly Angel
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Do you maybe know in which year was that? In the book Martin Bormann jr wrote that the skeleton wasn't allowed to be cremated because of possibilities for further analysis. But Martin Bormann wold be in any case dead by now, so I guess there is no point in keeping the skeleton.Helly Angel wrote:The skeleton was cremated and sent to a hidden place to avoid a neonazi monument.
Best,
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Polona
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