Croatian Ratline

[Orlov]

I read many information regarding role of Soviet (but also American, British and Italian) Intelligence in creating Ratline - ways for prominent person working or fighting in AXIS. Many intersting documents I find at the http://www.pavelicpapers.com (is this excellent website or subiective work two lawyers, who hate Croatia and Croatians?). Interesting traces discovered journalist Aaron & Loftus in Unholy Trinity (1992-but they created some phantasmagories, about activity od MI6, which collected Polish veteran of Anders with German Nazi or Slovak right-wing politician in one anti-communist organisation?). Some information exisist at another websides.
But:
Who knows and help in information (lecture, books) about Croats, who save yours life and run to South, North America or Australia?
Who can try better explain role person of ANTON VASILEVICH TURKUL?
Was any date in May 45 (before 15 May), when Allies stopped receive more Croatians?

Sincerely
Orlov

[Larry D.]

Orlov wrote:

Many intersting documents I find at the http://www.pavelicpapers.com (is this excellent website or subiective work two lawyers, who hate Croatia and Croatians?).

I think most Croatians view this web site as a highly biased propaganda source funded, constructed and maintained by Croatian-hating Serbian nationalists. At least that is what I have been told by middle-of-the-road educated Croatians. However, the site does provide a number of facts, albeit these are usually moulded and massaged to fit the political viewpoint of those who run the site.

[Orlov]

At least that is what I have been told by middle-of-the-road educated Croatians. However, the site does provide a number of facts, albeit these are usually moulded and massaged to fit the political viewpoint of those who run the site

I talk my professors from University of Warsaw and they said that Internet Webside ca bget anything from mind. This not arraignment of Internet or our Forum. But information at http://www.pavelicpapers.com are shocking for everybody, who interesting in Croatia (NDH) history. And I didn't see any original American classiffied documents.

Regards

Orlov

[Orlov]

OK! I recognize post about Pavelic escape:
viewtopic.php?t=30925&highlight=croatia

I think that's all at this subject.

Thanks
Orlov

[Allen Milcic]

The best source for information on Pavelic's movements from the NDH and his eventual escape to Argentina can be found in this recent book (in Croatian only)- Dinko Sakic: "S poglavnikom u Alpama".

The book is available here:

http://www.sveznadar.com/knjiga.aspx?knjiga=65042

I also recommend the collection of short memoirs: "Povlacenje 1945 - krivci i zrtve", in which Pavelic's escape from Zagreb to Austria is described by a young member of Poglavnik's bodyguard (identified only as "J.R.") as follows [my translation from the Croatian original text]:

I served in the Poglavnik Bodyguard Regiment [Poglavnikov tjelesni sdrug], in the Light Infantry Company [Lovacka satnija]. I joined the Ustase in October 1944 as a volunteer.
My company was guarding the Poglavnik's villa at Rebro in Zagreb. On May 6 [1945] in the afternoon we received orders to prepare for movement. We boarded four trucks. In the first truck were the non-commissioned officers, and in the other three us regular soldiers. Before leaving, a few of us entered the villa which was at the time empty. We grabbed a few silver candelabras, hoping to bring them with us. However, the Poglavnik returned for some reason inside the villa and ordered us to leave them behind.
On May 7 [1945] in the morning the Poglavnik had some kind of conference in Rogaska Slatina [with General Lohr]. From Rogaska Slatina we moved towards Maribor, and from there towards Austria. When we crossed the Austrian border the Poglavnik changed into civilian clothing.
On the road towards Judenburg the column stopped. Someone shouted that Soviet tanks had cut off the road ahead of us. When we heard this, we jumped from the trucks and ran towards the nearby hill. The Poglavnik also exited from his automobile. He tried to stop us and pleaded with us to stay with him. However, as most of us had never been in combat and were terrified of the Russian tanks, we continued to run. Only some officers and a handful of non-commissioned officers remained with the Poglavnik.
I ended up in the Prisoner of War camp in Klagenfurt, from which I was extradited to the Partizans by the English.

As an aside, I have very little respect for the "Pavelic Papers" website.

Best regards,
Allen/

[Orlov]

Thanks for a link an d information

After first 5 minutes at http://www.sveznadar.com/ I would like but books for 200 euro. Fantastic bookstaff. I will start collected money for transfer to Croatia.

Sincerely

Orlov

[CroSpartacus]

PavelicPapers is a complete Hate website, it's not good for reference.