Dmitrii -- Unless you have some facts to add to the discussion, we're not really interested in your fact free characterizations. See the excerpts from the H&WC section rules below.
snookie -- You wrote:
Now I can ask the question, is this a serious quote?
(a) He was convicted and sentenced to death (by a confession obtained by "dubious" means if you believe 90% of his peers ALSO whom signed confessions under the same circumstances)
(b) It was never prioven that he issued any order to kill anyone
(c) nor was was it ever shown that he was even in the area when the crime happened
He was as guilty as Meyer, Dietrich and Skorzeny were...take that for whatever you will.
Now if we are going to be fair here, are we going to go burn down and shoot all the US Soldiers who may have sought some Payback post Malmedy...if so, I'll let you start pulling the trigger first.
In every case Pieper was either let go, exonerated or just the cases dropped because of lack of evidence...which in my book does not equal a war criminal.
(1) As I pointed out above, the topic of this thread is Peiper's actions in Italy, not the Malmedy conviction. We already have a large number of open threads on that subject, and you are invited to post your sourced comments there.
(2) The evidence on Peiper's guilt in the Malmedy massacre of POWs is reviewed here:
BAUGNEZ (Malmedy) once more (Peiper)...
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=280
Was the Malmedy massacre planned?
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=25613
Malmedy massacre
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=23296
My first post is a question about Malmedy
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=13824
Malmedy massacre
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=11445
Malmedy
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=5825
Malmedy - Once again
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=35729
Joachim Peiper and the Malmedy massacres once again
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=32364
LSSAH war crimes 1939-1945
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=34630
Were Kurt Meyer and Jochen Peiper Guilty?
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=46978
(3) The evidence against Kurt "Panzer" Meyer is reviewed at:
The crimes of Kurt "Panzer" Meyer
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=32709
Were Kurt Meyer and Jochen Peiper Guilty?
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=46978
(4) The evidence against Josef "Sepp" Dietrich is reviewed at:
How much was Sepp Dietrich really guilty of?
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=24329
(5) Skorzeny was acquitted by an American military tribunal, so there's not much point in talking about his being "guilty."
Was Otto Skorzeny a war criminal?
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=46989
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