I hope that no one will object if I cross-reference an enquiry that I just posted in the "Various Militaria and Collecting in General" forum regarding a (possibly) naval insignia that I am trying to identify. A complete description appears in that posting, but because the insignia includes the fasces I thought that an appeal directly to the participants in this forum might be appropriate.
Thanks for your help.
Can you identify this insignia?
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Hello Douglas
No sure..but I think "Milizia Costiera" .
Note insignia on cap .
From http://digilander.libero.it/lacorsainfi ... niduce.htm
No sure..but I think "Milizia Costiera" .
Note insignia on cap .
From http://digilander.libero.it/lacorsainfi ... niduce.htm
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Sorry, I don’t come to this forum much so I just found this. I spend most of my time at comando supremo.
What you found is an artifact from one of the least studied organizations in military history. Maybe that’s why I'm interested in the MVSN/CC.NN. Who is the MVSN/CC.NN.? Well it’s Mussolini's Fascist Militia somewhat comparable to Hitler’s' SA and SS. Your badge is the identification of the Coastal Defense Militia. I'm willing to say it's an officers cap badge but let me verify it. So I have some questions for you. Does it have a wreath below by any chance with a number or some other symbol, is it embroidery or metal ?
Now for the organization. The Coastal Defense Militia (Milizia per la Difesa Costiera or for short Milizia Costiera) was created in 1935 and was the other part of the combined HQ with the AA Artillery Militia (Milizia Controarei) which was created in 1927. The Coastal Defense Militia changed its name in 1940 to Maritime Artillery Militia (Milizia Artiglieria Marittima). Do not get the coast defense militia mixed up the Army's Coastal Divisions or the Port Militia. It was under the Navy command.
Sources, well if your not educated in the Italian Language your some what out of luck. But there is one source that has color plates of uniforms and insignia and that is bi-lingual in Italian and English but just the plates the text and photos is in Italian. This is:
Rosignoli, Guido. MVSN-Storia, organizzazione, uniformi e distintivi. Parma Italy, 1995.
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What you found is an artifact from one of the least studied organizations in military history. Maybe that’s why I'm interested in the MVSN/CC.NN. Who is the MVSN/CC.NN.? Well it’s Mussolini's Fascist Militia somewhat comparable to Hitler’s' SA and SS. Your badge is the identification of the Coastal Defense Militia. I'm willing to say it's an officers cap badge but let me verify it. So I have some questions for you. Does it have a wreath below by any chance with a number or some other symbol, is it embroidery or metal ?
Now for the organization. The Coastal Defense Militia (Milizia per la Difesa Costiera or for short Milizia Costiera) was created in 1935 and was the other part of the combined HQ with the AA Artillery Militia (Milizia Controarei) which was created in 1927. The Coastal Defense Militia changed its name in 1940 to Maritime Artillery Militia (Milizia Artiglieria Marittima). Do not get the coast defense militia mixed up the Army's Coastal Divisions or the Port Militia. It was under the Navy command.
Sources, well if your not educated in the Italian Language your some what out of luck. But there is one source that has color plates of uniforms and insignia and that is bi-lingual in Italian and English but just the plates the text and photos is in Italian. This is:
Rosignoli, Guido. MVSN-Storia, organizzazione, uniformi e distintivi. Parma Italy, 1995.
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Jim,
Thak you very much for the additional details. The insignia that I have seen is not in fact a cap badge but rather is engraved on the handle of a silver plate serving spoon belonging to a friend. It does not have a disc below the anchor with a numeral or other symbol. A cap badge with such a wreath is shown on another page of the link that Francy Ritter posted:
http://digilander.libero.it/lacorsainfi ... difesa.htm
The spoon, if you are interested, was made by Krupp Berndorf.
Thanks again.
Douglas
Thak you very much for the additional details. The insignia that I have seen is not in fact a cap badge but rather is engraved on the handle of a silver plate serving spoon belonging to a friend. It does not have a disc below the anchor with a numeral or other symbol. A cap badge with such a wreath is shown on another page of the link that Francy Ritter posted:
http://digilander.libero.it/lacorsainfi ... difesa.htm
The spoon, if you are interested, was made by Krupp Berndorf.
Thanks again.
Douglas