Can someone verify that these men were in the Einsatzgruppen

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Can someone verify that these men were in the Einsatzgruppen

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Post by JohnRayTaylor » 17 Nov 2002, 10:50

Can some one verify that these men were in the E.Gr.? I need to know if these men served in any Einsatzgruppe or Einsatzkommando-unit. If at all possible could I get thier SS#'s and when they were in these's units. Any help would be greatly appreciated and most welcomed. Thanks in advance for any info.
SONDERKOMMANDO 7A (Sk)
Obersturmbannfuhrer Dr. Joseph WITISKA
Sturmbannfuhrer Dr. Gerhard BAST
Sturmscharfuhrer Werner PETZOLD
Sturmscharfuhrer Hans BRENNER
Sturmscharfuhrer Erhard KREMNITZ

STAB EINSATZKOMMANDO 13
Hauptsturmfuhrer Werner SCHONEMANN
Obersturmfuhrer Hans HARMS
Hauptsturmfuhrer Lothar HEINBACH
Obersturmfuhrer Friedrich BOGENDORFER
Sturmbannfuhrer Karl SCHNITZ
Hauptsturmfuhrer Paul STREIT
Hauptsturmfuhrer Franz MOHRWALD
Hauptsturmfuhrer Joseph JURITSCH
Hauptsturmfuhrer Hans NAGER
Hauptsturmfuhrer FIGAS
Sturmscharfuhrer RIMKUS
Obersturmfuhrer TRONNIER
Obersturmfuhrer Friedrich BOGENDORFER

SONDERKOMMANDO zbV 15
Sturmbannfuhrer Werner HERSMANN
Obersturmfuhrer Dr. H. KOENEH
Obersturmfuhrer PLIETH
Sturmscharfuhrer SCHENK
Hauptscharfuhrer Ludwig HAHN
Oberscharfuhrer Alois GERBRICHT
Untersturmfuhrer Helmuth SÜSSMILCH
Untersturmfuhrer DANNEL
Hauptsturmfuhrer Hans ZITLOV

KOMANNDO zbV 29 V BRATISLAVA
Sturmbannfuhrer Dr. GLASER
Unterstumfuhrer DOBERSCHUTZ
Hauptsturmfuhrer Dr. WEISS
Hauptsturmfuhrer Gustáv HAUSKRECHT

EINSATZKOMMANDO 14
Sturmbannführer Dr. Hans Jaskulski
Hauptsturmfuhrer Dr. Georg HEUSER
Obersturmfuhrer Dr. Kurt Georg Herbert DEFFNER
Untersturmfuhrer WINTER
Sturmscharfuhrer Johann WEIN
Obersturmfuhrer Johannes HOSSBACH
Sturmscharfuhrer Walter KROGER
Obersturmfuhrer Walter GROSS
Untersturmfuhrer Hans PREYER
Obersturmfuhrer Fritz RAMTHUN
Scharfuhrer Anton KANDZIK.
Scharfuhrer Otto MAI
Oberscharfuhrer Andreas INHOFER
Scharfuhrer Maximilian Bayer

Sonderkommando zbV 27
Hauptsturmfuhrer Georg VOIGTLÄNDER
Obersturmbannfuhrer Dr. Karl Hermann RABE
Hauptsturmfuhrer Peter KRAUS
Hauptsturmfuhrer Fritz Alfred HERMANN
Hauptsturmfuhrer WACHS
Hauptsturmfuhrer Joseph STREICHER
Hauptsturmfuhrer SCHILLER
Hauptsturmfuhrer dr. LEHMANN
Obersturmfuhrer SCHUBERT
Hauptsturmfuhrer Dr. Elmar PAUFLER
Untersturmfuhrer Heinz TANGERMANN

ABWEHRGRUPPE 218

SD/Sipo
Obersturmbannfuhrer Dr. Joseph Witiska
Sturmbannfuhrer Karl Schnitz
Untersturmfuhrer Joseph Juritsch
Hauptscharfuhrer Franz Mohrwald
Sturmbannfuhrer Hermann Altmann

Sonderkommando 7a
Sturmscharfuhrer Erhard Kremnitz
Sturmscharfuhrer Viktor Dammer
Hauptsturmfuhrer Werner Schonemann

Einsatzkommando 13
Scharfuhrer Joseph Dranger
Scharfuhrer Hans Engelmann
Oberscharfuhrer Weinhold

Einsatzkommando 14
Obersturmfuhrer Dr. Kurt Georg Herbert Deffner
Unterscharfuhrer Robert Wich
Sturmscharfuhrer Walter Kroger
Sturmscharfuhrer Robert Pieck
Scharfuhrer Anton Kandzik
Obersturmfuhrer Fritz Ramthun
Obersturmfuhrer Alfred Nanck
Sturmbannfuhrer Werner Hersmann


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Post by David Thompson » 17 Nov 2002, 19:18

Bast, Dr. jur. Gerhard (1911-1947) [SS-Sturmbannfuehrer] -- b. 12.1.1911 at Gottschen; NSDAP: 612972; SS: 23064; service, police Muenster; service, Police Linz; commander, Einsatzkommando 11a July (or Nov)-Dec 1942 (or May 1943); commander, Sonderkommando 7a Jun-Nov 1944; {reportedly robbed and murdered in 1947 (Field Men p. 38).}

Glaser, Dr. Helmut (1910-?) [SS-Sturmbannfuehrer] -- b. 29.7.1910 at Gmuend; NSDAP: 444132; SS: 301760; service, Einsatzkommando 4/I 1939; service, Reich Security Main Office Department III A (SD Inland -- Law and Structure); service, SD Klagenfurt; service; SD Krakau; service, Einsatzkommando 29 1944 (Field Men 60)

Heimbach, Lothar (1908-?) [SS-Hauptsturmfuehrer] -- b. 25.9.1908 at Hoffnungsthal; NSDAP: 5639883; SS: 353607; police service; service, with commander of Security Police and Security Service (BdS) "Northeast"; court-martialled by SS 1944 for drunkenness and insubordination; service, 3rd SS Division "Totenkopf" 1945

Hersmann, Werner (1904-?) [SS-Sturmbannführer] – b. 11.9.1904 at Duisberg; NSDAP: 298562; SS: 9416; service, Action Command 11a (Einsatzkommando 11a); service, Action Command (Einsatzkommando) Tilsit Dec 1942-May 1943; service, Security Service (Sicherheitsdienst – SD) Weimar; service, SD Koenigsberg (Königsberg); service, 36th SS Division "Dirlewanger" 1944; service, 38th SS Division "Niebelungen" 1945{arrested and put on trial 1957 by a West German court at Ulm for war crimes committed between Jun-Sept 1941 at Garsden, Krottingen, Augustowo, Polangen, Szweksznie, Tauroggen, Georgenburg, Wladislawa, Schmalleningken, Wirballen, Kybarty, Vevirzeniai, Wilkowischken, Calvaria (in the district of [Krs.] Mariampol), Wirballen, Heydekrug, Kolleschen, Batakai, Mariampol, Pilwischken, Skaudville, Vainutas, Erschwilkis, and Schilale, Lithuania, consisting of the shooting executions of thousands of Jewish men, women and children and the murders of communist functionaries by members of the German Secret State Police (Geheime Staatspolizei - Gestapo) at Tilsit, the German Security Service (Sicherheitsdienst – SD) at Tilsit, State Police and Security Service Action Command (EK Stapo und SD) Tilsit, the Police Directorate (Polizeidirektion) at Memel, the German Protection Police (Schutzpolizei – Schupo) at Memel, and the Lithuanian Police (Litauische Polizei) at Krottingen; convicted and sentenced to 15 years imprisonment 29 Aug 1958 (JuNSV Verfahren Lfd.Nr.465; LG Ulm 580829 [Ks 2/57]; BGH 600223 [1 StR 648/59]; Field Men p. 70).}

Heuser, Dr. jur. Georg Albert Wilhelm (1913-?) [SS-Hauptsturmführer or SS-Sturmbannführer] – b. 27.2.1913 at Berlin; NSDAP: none; SS: not listed; service, police; officer, Action Group A (Einsatzgruppe A) Sept 1941-Aug 1944; commander, 14th Action Command (Einsatzkommando 14) Aug 1944; service, Reich Security Main Office (RSHA) service, Criminal Police (Kriminalpolizei - Kripo) Berlin; service, German Security Police (Sicherheitspolizei – Sipo) Minsk, service, 1005th Special Command (Sonderkommando 1005) {avoided postwar punishment due to listing as Haeuser (Häuser) on war criminal rosters; police chief of Rheinland- Pfalz 1958; dismissed on exposure of his Nazi past; arrested and indicted 1 Feb 1962 (NYT 2 Feb 1962:12:6); put on trial 1962 by a West German court at Koblenz for war crimes committed between 1941-Jun 1944 at Minsk, concentration camp (Konzentrationslager - KL) Gut Trostinez, Koidanow, Rakow, Slonim, and Sluzk, consisting of the shootings and gassing of thousands of Jews deported to Minsk from western Europe, the murders of mentally ill persons, Soviet agents and Russian civilians, all under the auspices of the commander of the Security Police and Security Service (KdS/BdS) Minsk (NYT 31 Jan 1963:2:2; NYT 2 Feb 1963:3:5; NYT 5 Feb 1963:3:5; NYT 26 Mar 1963:4:2; NYT 30 Apr 1963:8:6; NYT 12 May 1963:9:3); convicted and sentenced to 15 years imprisonment 21 May 1963 (NYT 22 May 1963:7:3; JuNSV Verfahren Lfd.Nr.552; LG Koblenz 630521 [9 Ks 2/62]); later commuted to 5 years (Field Men p. 71; "Hitler's Legacy" Biographical index).}

Jaskulsky, Dr. jur. Hans (1912-?) [SS-Sturmbannfuehrer] -- b. 14.9.1912 at Posen (Poznan); NSDAP: 2636039 (joined 1 May 1933); SS: 276308 (joined SS 1 Dec 1935); service, Hitler Youth (Hitlerjugend) 1928-1931; service, SA 1933-1935; service, SD Bayreuth; service, RSHA; service, SD Graz; commander, Einsatzkommando 13; commander, Einsatzgruppe H 1944 (Field Men p. 76)

Rabe, Karl (1905-?) [SS-Obersturmbannfuehrer] – b. 11.6.1905 at Muehlhausen; NSDAP: 259544 (entered 1 Jun 1930); SS: 54628 (entered 1 Jun 1932); service, Freikorps Ehrhard Brigade; service, SA 1931-1932; service, Reich Security Main Office Department (Amt) I (Personnel); service, SD Krakau (Cracow); commander, Einsatzkommando 7b Jan 1943-Oct 1944

Schoenemann (Schönemann), Werner (1911-?) [SS-Hauptsturmfuehrer] – b. 27.11.1911 at Berlin; NSDAP: 7599367; SS: 290678; SA service 1934-1935; sub-unit commander (Teilkommandofűhrer), 8th Action Command (Einsatzkommando 8) 1941; service, Reich Security Main Office (RSHA) {arrested and put on trial 1963 by a West German court at Cologne for war crimes committed Jun-Sept 1941 at Bialystok, Borissow, Krupki, Lahoisk, Slonim, Smolewitsche, and Zembin, consisting of the mass executions by shooting of hundreds of Jewish men, women and children, communist functionaries and Russian POWs; convicted and sentenced to 6 years imprisonment 12 May 1964 (JuNSV Verfahren Lfd.Nr.573; LG Köln 640512 [24 Ks 1/63]); sentence reportedly commuted to 3 years (Field Men p. 108).}

Schubert, Heinz Hermann (1914-?) [SS-Obersturmfuehrer] -- b. 27.8.1914 at Berlin; NSDAP: 3474350 (entered 1 May 1934); SS: 107326 (entered 11 Oct 1934); Adjutant, Action Group D (Einsatzgruppe D) Oct 1941-Jun 1942; service, Reich Security Main Office Department I A-4 (Sipo/SD Personnel); service, German Security Service (Sicherheitsdienst – SD) Augsburg {arrested and put on trial by an American military tribunal at Nuremberg (the "Einsatzgruppe case") on charges of ordering and participating in mass shootings of Jewish civilians in the Soviet Union; convicted and sentenced to death by hanging 10 Apr 1948 (NYT 11 Apr 1948:9:1); sentence under review by General Lucius D. Clay 7 Mar 1949 (NYT 8 Mar 1949:10:5); commuted in 1951 to 10 years imprisonment by US High Commissioner for Germany John J. McCloy, on recommendation of the Clemency Board; released from American custody 1952 (Holo Ency 1792-1793; Field Men p. 110).
The American military tribunal which sentenced Schubert to death had this to say is passing judgment:
"SS-First Lieutenant Heinz Hermann Schubert, joined the NSDAP on May 1, 1934, having previously served in the Hitler Youth Organization. In October 1934 he joined the SS. From October 1941 to June 1942 he served as adjutant to Ohlendorf, Chief of Einsatzgruppe D. At the trial he testified that his duties consisted mostly of attending to the personal affairs of his chief, the receiving and filing of correspondence, the making of appointments, receiving visitors and so on. It would appear, however, that he was more than a office boy with shoulder straps. Schubert's own affidavit answers the question as to whether he is guilty under Counts I and II of the Indictment. The pertinent parts of this affidavit read as follows:
"In December 1941 -- I do not remember the exact date -- I was assigned by Ohlendorf or Seibert to supervise and inspect the shooting of about 700 to 800 people, which was to take place in the close vicinity of Simferopol. The shooting was undertaken by the Special Command 11b, one of the formations of Einsatzgruppe D. My task in connection with the shooting consisted of three parts:
a) to see that the location of the shooting be remote enough, so that there could be no witnesses to the shooting;
b) to supervise that the collection of money, jewels, and other valuables of the persons who were to be shot, be completed without the use of force; and that the persons designated for this by the Special Command 11b, hand over the collected items to the administration leaders and their deputies in order to have them passed on to Einsatzgruppe D.
c) to supervise that the execution be completed in the most humane and military manner possible, exactly according to Ohlendorf's orders. After the execution I had to report personally to Ohlendorf that the execution had been carried out exactly to his orders.
As commissioner of Ohlendorf I followed his orders. I went to the Gypsy quarter of Simferopol and supervised the loading of the persons who were to be shot, into a truck, I took care that the loading was completed as quickly as possible and that there were no disturbances and unrest by the native population. Furthermore, I took care that the condemned persons were not beaten while the loading was going on. Since it was my task to supervise the whole execution, I could only stay a short time at each phase of it. The place which was designated for the shooting of these Russians and Jews was several kilometers outside of Simferopol and about 500 meters off the road in an anti-tank ditch. Among other things I ascertained that the traffic in that region was stopped by persons designated for this and was detoured on side roads. When the condemned persons arrived at the place of execution, they were ordered to leave their money, their valuables and papers at a place designated for the collection. I watched that none of the deposited items were kept by the SS- and Orpo-men who were designated for collection. The depositing of this property by the condemned persons was finished without the use of force. I supervised this phase carefully, in order that all the valuables could be handed over to the Einsatzgruppe D, for subsequent remittance to Berlin. For a short time, when the people who were to be shot were already standing in their positions in the tank ditch, I supervised the actual shooting which was carried out in strictest conformity with Ohlendorf's orders -- in a military and humane manner, as far as possible. The people were shot with submachine guns and rifles. I know that it was of the greatest importance to Ohlendorf to have the persons who were to be shot killed in the most humane and military manner possible because otherwise -- in other methods of killing -- the moral strain (seelische Belastung) would have been too great for the execution squad.
I have read this statement, consisting of three pages in the German language and declare that it is the whole truth to the best of my knowledge and belief. I had the opportunity to make changes and corrections in the above statement. I made this statement of my own free will without any promise of reward, and I was not subjected to any threat or duress whatsoever.
Nuernberg, Germany, the 24 February 1947
(Signature) Heinz Hermann Schubert"
That the execution described by Schubert actually took place is established conclusively not only by reports but by the testimony of other witnesses as well. In fact, Schubert himself said:
"This was the execution which has been discussed here repeatedly. It was the execution for which the 11th Army had given orders to the Einsatzgruppe to carry it out before a certain time. This deadline, as far as I know, was Christmas or the end of the year 1941."
At the trial the defendant endeavored to dilute the force of his affidavit by saying that the word "supervise", which is frequently used in his narrative, does not correctly report the functions he performed at the execution; he did not supervise but merely inspected. The affidavit consisted of three pages, he made a correction on page 1 and initialed the correction, placed his abbreviated name at the bottom of the first two pages and signed his full name at the bottom of the last page.
However, even if the affidavit were to be disregarded, his account on the witness stand of the part he played in the execution of defenseless and innocent people could clearly take him within the purview of Control Council Law No. 10.
When asked why these 700 to 800 people were shot he replied:
"I did not know why the individuals were being executed. It is possible that there were persons among then who, because of some special examination were being executed. As for me, in general, however, I was certain of one thing, that this was an execution based on the Fuehrer-Order." When asked what he did in the early stages of this operation he emphasized that he did not select the place for the execution. It was then pointed out to him that his affidavit did not so indicate:
"This does not say that you selected it. It says that you went there to make certain that the place selected for the shooting was so located that it would fall within the regulations, namely, that there would not be any unnecessary witnesses to the shooting."
He affirmed this version. With regard to the taking of the valuables he also confirmed in court:
"I convinced myself that the collection of money and valuables of people to be shot was not done by force, etc."
The defendant tried to convey the impression that he merely looked on, more or less, as a spectator, but he admitted that he would have interfered if the execution had been laid in the wrong place, if weapons not prescribed by the Chief of the Einsatzgruppe were used, and in general he would have intervened if things were not going "well."
Schubert's criminal involvement in the Christmas massacre of Simferopol is complete and presents no mitigating circumstances. His general participation is the venture of Einsatzgruppe D while he was it adjutant is not to be doubted. The defendant Ohlendorf declared in an affidavit:
"The only people whom I generally assigned to inspections were, except for Schubert, Willi Seibert and Hans Gabel."
Schubert sought to minimize the implications of this statement and denied that he had been "generally assigned to inspections." He did, however, state that he knew "definitely" that Gabel "carried out such inspections". It would be strange, indeed, that Ohlendorf should mention three names, and it developed that the only one who performed the duties he assigned to them should be that one person who did not appear in this trial as a defendant. It is also clear that the defendant was thoroughly aware of the instructions generally given by the Chief of the Einsatzgruppe with regard to the "manner of carrying out executions." It is furthermore evident that, as adjutant, Schubert was current on the assignments given to various members of the staff and, therefore, had full knowledge of the main purpose of the Einsatzgruppe. From all the evidence in the case the Tribunal finds the defendant guilty under Counts I and II of the Indictment.
The Tribunal also finds that the defendant was a member of the criminal organizations SS and SD under conditions defined in the Judgment of the International Military Tribunal and is, therefore, guilty under count III of the Indictment." (Musmanno, Michael A., U.S.N.R, Military Tribunal II, Case 9: Opinion and Judgment of the Tribunal. Nuremberg: Palace of Justice. 8 April 1948. pp. 220-224 (original mimeographed copy), http://www.einsatzgruppenarchives.com/t ... ubert.html).}

Witiska, Dr. jur. Josef (1894-?) [SS-Standartenfuehrer] -- b. 5.7.1894 at Iglau; NSDAP: 6289103; SS: 422296; WWI service as airman; service, RSHA; service; SD Graz; service, SD Salzburg; commander, SD Lemberg; commander, Einsatzkommando H 10 Sept 1944-? (Camp Men 128)


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Post by Ludger » 19 May 2004, 18:30

Hi David,

you wrote in http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=10740
Rabe, Karl (1905-?) [SS-Obersturmbannfuehrer] – b. 11.6.1905 at Muehlhausen; NSDAP: 259544 (entered 1 Jun 1930); SS: 54628 (entered 1 Jun 1932); service, Freikorps Ehrhard Brigade; service, SA 1931-1932; service, Reich Security Main Office Department (Amt) I (Personnel); service, SD Krakau (Cracow); commander, Einsatzkommando 7b Jan 1943-Oct 1944
According to my information SK 7b was led by SS-OStubaf. Georg Rabe.

Which one is correct or did Rabe have a double-name?

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Post by David Thompson » 19 May 2004, 19:47

Ludger -- I got my information from French MacLean's book The Field Men: The SS Officers Who Led the Einsatzkommandos - the Nazi Mobile Killing Units, Schiffer Military History, Atglen [PA]: 1999 p. 97. MacLean gives US National Archives file A3343 SSO-001B as his source for the information on Rabe.

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Post by Ludger » 22 May 2004, 22:18

Hi David,

thanks for the information.

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Post by Mikedc » 31 Jul 2005, 15:00

Hello Ludger,

His full name was Dr. Karl Georg Hermann Rabe.

Hope that explains it even more.

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Post by Ludger » 31 Jul 2005, 17:47

Mikedc wrote:Hello Ludger,

His full name was Dr. Karl Georg Hermann Rabe.

Hope that explains it even more.

Greetings,
Mike
Thanks a lot Mike,

that explains everything.

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Karl Rabe & Dr Gerhard Bast

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Post by steve248 » 01 Aug 2005, 10:58

Karl Rabe posting from Reichsschule der Sich.Pol. Prag to SK 7b "als Führer" listed
in BBL 1/43 (as "Raabe").

1965, West German war crimes investigators opened a case against him. No info on what happened.

The posting of Dr Gerhard Bast to SK 11a was announced in BBL 52/43 but revoked in
BBL 4/43; instead Bast was posted from Stapo Münster to Stapo Linz.

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Re: Can someone verify that these men were in the Einsatzgru

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Post by Ludger » 10 Aug 2005, 20:21

JohnRayTaylor wrote:Can some one verify that these men were in the E.Gr.? I need to know if these men served in any Einsatzgruppe or Einsatzkommando-unit. If at all possible could I get thier SS#'s and when they were in these's units. Any help would be greatly appreciated and most welcomed. Thanks in advance for any info.
SONDERKOMMANDO 7A (Sk)
Obersturmbannfuhrer Dr. Joseph WITISKA
Sturmbannfuhrer Dr. Gerhard BAST
Sturmscharfuhrer Werner PETZOLD
Sturmscharfuhrer Hans BRENNER
Sturmscharfuhrer Erhard KREMNITZ

STAB EINSATZKOMMANDO 13
Hauptsturmfuhrer Werner SCHONEMANN
Obersturmfuhrer Hans HARMS
Hauptsturmfuhrer Lothar HEINBACH
Obersturmfuhrer Friedrich BOGENDORFER
Sturmbannfuhrer Karl SCHNITZ
Hauptsturmfuhrer Paul STREIT
Hauptsturmfuhrer Franz MOHRWALD
Hauptsturmfuhrer Joseph JURITSCH
Hauptsturmfuhrer Hans NAGER
Hauptsturmfuhrer FIGAS
Sturmscharfuhrer RIMKUS
Obersturmfuhrer TRONNIER
Obersturmfuhrer Friedrich BOGENDORFER

SONDERKOMMANDO zbV 15
Sturmbannfuhrer Werner HERSMANN
Obersturmfuhrer Dr. H. KOENEH
Obersturmfuhrer PLIETH
Sturmscharfuhrer SCHENK
Hauptscharfuhrer Ludwig HAHN
Oberscharfuhrer Alois GERBRICHT
Untersturmfuhrer Helmuth SÜSSMILCH
Untersturmfuhrer DANNEL
Hauptsturmfuhrer Hans ZITLOV


KOMANNDO zbV 29 V BRATISLAVA
Sturmbannfuhrer Dr. GLASER
Unterstumfuhrer DOBERSCHUTZ
Hauptsturmfuhrer Dr. WEISS
Hauptsturmfuhrer Gustáv HAUSKRECHT

EINSATZKOMMANDO 14
Sturmbannführer Dr. Hans Jaskulski
Hauptsturmfuhrer Dr. Georg HEUSER
Obersturmfuhrer Dr. Kurt Georg Herbert DEFFNER
Untersturmfuhrer WINTER
Sturmscharfuhrer Johann WEIN
Obersturmfuhrer Johannes HOSSBACH
Sturmscharfuhrer Walter KROGER
Obersturmfuhrer Walter GROSS
Untersturmfuhrer Hans PREYER
Obersturmfuhrer Fritz RAMTHUN
Scharfuhrer Anton KANDZIK.
Scharfuhrer Otto MAI
Oberscharfuhrer Andreas INHOFER
Scharfuhrer Maximilian Bayer

Sonderkommando zbV 27
Hauptsturmfuhrer Georg VOIGTLÄNDER
Obersturmbannfuhrer Dr. Karl Hermann RABE
Hauptsturmfuhrer Peter KRAUS
Hauptsturmfuhrer Fritz Alfred HERMANN
Hauptsturmfuhrer WACHS
Hauptsturmfuhrer Joseph STREICHER
Hauptsturmfuhrer SCHILLER
Hauptsturmfuhrer dr. LEHMANN
Obersturmfuhrer SCHUBERT
Hauptsturmfuhrer Dr. Elmar PAUFLER
Untersturmfuhrer Heinz TANGERMANN

ABWEHRGRUPPE 218

SD/Sipo
Obersturmbannfuhrer Dr. Joseph Witiska
Sturmbannfuhrer Karl Schnitz
Untersturmfuhrer Joseph Juritsch
Hauptscharfuhrer Franz Mohrwald
Sturmbannfuhrer Hermann Altmann

Sonderkommando 7a
Sturmscharfuhrer Erhard Kremnitz
Sturmscharfuhrer Viktor Dammer
Hauptsturmfuhrer Werner Schonemann

Einsatzkommando 13
Scharfuhrer Joseph Dranger
Scharfuhrer Hans Engelmann
Oberscharfuhrer Weinhold

Einsatzkommando 14
Obersturmfuhrer Dr. Kurt Georg Herbert Deffner
Unterscharfuhrer Robert Wich
Sturmscharfuhrer Walter Kroger
Sturmscharfuhrer Robert Pieck
Scharfuhrer Anton Kandzik
Obersturmfuhrer Fritz Ramthun
Obersturmfuhrer Alfred Nanck
Sturmbannfuhrer Werner Hersmann


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Can somebody please telle me more about SK z.b.V. 15?

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Re: Can someone verify that these men were in the Einsatzgruppen

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Post by stcamp » 24 Nov 2008, 20:10

Hello,

I was looking for date of death for these men. Found this:

Ks 2/57 ("Ulmer Einsatzgruppenprozess")
Strafsache wegen Mordes und Beihilfe zum Mord an Juden und des Kommunismus verdächtigen Personen im Grenzgebiet Litauen-Deutschland vom 24.6.1941 - Herbst 1941 gegen:
1. Bernhard Fischer-Schweder (12.1.1904 - 28.11.1960),
2. Hans-Joachim Böhme (10.1.1909 - 31.5.1968)
3. Werner Hersmann (11.9.1904 - 17./19.10.1972)
4. Werner Schmidt-Hammer (28.8.1907 - 2.3.1979)
5. Edwin Sakuth (3.6.1909 - 20.5.1981)
6. Werner Kreuzmann (4.6.1909 - 24.11.1970)
7. Harm Wilms Harms (6.12.1892 - 4.1.1974)
8. Gerhard Carsten (3.2.1909 - )
9. Franz Behrendt (28.1.1912 - 6.5.1988)
10. Lukys, alias Jakys, Pranas (3.7.1900 - gest. vor 1970).
Bemerkung: Frühere Archivsignatur: EL 322 Nr. 32518
Laufzeit des Prozesses: 1955 - 1968

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Re: Can someone verify that these men were in the Einsatzgruppen

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Post by Ludger » 30 Nov 2008, 02:02

stcamp wrote:Hello,

I was looking for date of death for these men. Found this:

Ks 2/57 ("Ulmer Einsatzgruppenprozess")
Strafsache wegen Mordes und Beihilfe zum Mord an Juden und des Kommunismus verdächtigen Personen im Grenzgebiet Litauen-Deutschland vom 24.6.1941 - Herbst 1941 gegen:
1. Bernhard Fischer-Schweder (12.1.1904 - 28.11.1960),
2. Hans-Joachim Böhme (10.1.1909 - 31.5.1968)
3. Werner Hersmann (11.9.1904 - 17./19.10.1972)
4. Werner Schmidt-Hammer (28.8.1907 - 2.3.1979)
5. Edwin Sakuth (3.6.1909 - 20.5.1981)
6. Werner Kreuzmann (4.6.1909 - 24.11.1970)
7. Harm Wilms Harms (6.12.1892 - 4.1.1974)
8. Gerhard Carsten (3.2.1909 - )
9. Franz Behrendt (28.1.1912 - 6.5.1988)
10. Lukys, alias Jakys, Pranas (3.7.1900 - gest. vor 1970).
Bemerkung: Frühere Archivsignatur: EL 322 Nr. 32518
Laufzeit des Prozesses: 1955 - 1968
For mor infos concerning this trial and the defendants have a look at this link:
http://www.idgr.de/texte/dokumente/just ... tz-ulm.php
Greetings from
Ludger

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Re: SS-Obersturmführer Tronnier

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Post by Mikedc » 30 Jun 2012, 21:11

STAB EINSATZKOMMANDO 13
SSS-Obersturmführer TRONNIER


I think he's identical to Werner Tronnier.
Born on 15-06-1894
SS-number: 290.892
Promoted to SS-Ustuf on 09-11-1938
I also did find an Kriminalobersekretär der Polizei who was employed within the Gestapo, I guess he's identical to Werner Tronnier and to the Tronnier from Einsatzkommando 13 as well.

Hopefully somebody can confirm or ad things.
Greetings, Mike

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Re: Can someone verify that these men were in the Einsatzgru

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Post by barneyny » 18 Jan 2013, 23:11

Hauskrecht, I believe, was a "selector". I believe that his nephew works as a professor in the Kelley School of Business at Indiana University.

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Re: Can someone verify that these men were in the Einsatzgru

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Post by steve248 » 19 Jan 2013, 15:12

EK 13
It was SS-Ostuf Georg Tronnier (born 19 Jan 1898), Stutzpunktführer at Waag/Neustadt (Slowakei) - not Werner Tronnier.

zbV Kommando 15 was stationed at Nitra (Slowakei) under Einsatzgruppe H (1944-1945).
An organization plan for this Kommando dated 24 Nov 1944 mentions
SS-Ostuf Dr jur KK Hans Koenen (not Koeneh) (born 10 Sept 1907);
SS-Ostuf Ernst Plieth (born 5 July 1906) was Stutzpunktführer Topolcany;
Staffel-Schaf Schenk was Stutzpunktführer Bavotny;
Helmuth Susemihl (not Süssmilch) (born 15 June 1909) was an SD officer;
SS-Ustuf KK Helmuth Dannel (born 30 May 1910) was the former Leiter, Poltiisches Abteilung KL Sachsenhausen and KL Buchenwald, and in zbV K 15, Stutzpunktführer Prievidza;
KR Hans Zieper (possibly "Hans Zitlov") was stationed in Nitra.

For anyone interested in the structure of Einsatzgruppe H and explanation of its Kommandos, role, duties activities and crimes should keep checking the new publications of publishers Ferdinand Schöningh for the forthcoming book by Lenka Sindelarova. Obviously in German language and unlikely to be translated into English. Will have photos!

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Re: Can someone verify that these men were in the Einsatzgru

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Post by Mikedc » 19 Jan 2013, 15:26

Hello Steve,
Thanks for clearing the Tronnier-matter up, it's well appreciated.
Thanks also for the other mentioned info.

JohnRay wrote:
Sturmscharfuhrer Werner PETZOLD
I've an SS-Hstuf Werner Petzold, in 01-1944 ernannt zum Aussenstellenleiter im SD-LA. Posen. This info comes from the Befehlsblatt der Sipo und SD Nr. 4-44/Ausgabe A: 29. Januar 1944


Greetings, Mike

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