Universal Shells for Krupp Howitzers

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Universal Shells for Krupp Howitzers

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Post by Hoplophile » 01 Nov 2006, 03:10

Lieber Forumgenossen!

This is a long shot, but I figure that, if anyone knows the answer to this question, he is probably a visitor to this forum.

Does anyone have figures on the technical characteristics of the universal shells (Einheitsgeschossen) and shrapnel shells produced by Krussp for export in the years prior to World War I? I am particularly looking for weight, weight of shrapnel bullets and number of shrapnel bullets.

Any clues would be welcome.

Cheers,

Bruce

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Post by adolpheit » 01 Nov 2006, 11:17

I have the data of Ehrhardt (Rheinmetall) Brisanzschrapnell adopted in 1912 by Bulgaria Army :
calibre : 75mm
weight : 6.5 kg
bursting charge: 0.22 kg of Schneiderite
225 bullets x 10 g x 13 mm
fuze : Doppel-Zünder - time (Alluminium Brennzünder) and percussion (Aufschlagzünder)
weight : 284 g
max. range : 5000 m

I have datas for the other Ehrhardt, but I have to look for that.
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Post by Hoplophile » 01 Nov 2006, 17:04

Many thanks.

This is extraordinarily helpful.

I would also be very grateful for information on the "ordinary" 75mm shells adopted by Bulgaria, the shrapnel and (if any) high explosive shells built by Schneider and Krupp.

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Post by adolpheit » 01 Nov 2006, 21:18

Shell
weight : 6.5 kg
bursting charge: 0.68 kg of Schneiderite
fuze : percussion (Aufschlagzünder)
max. range : 5900 m

Shrapnel
weight : 6.5 kg
bursting charge: 80 g of black powder
294 bullets x 10 g x 13 mm
fuze : Doppel-Zünder - time (Alluminium Brennzünder) and percussion (Aufschlagzünder) fuze
weight : 284 g
max. range : 5000 m

These are the data for Schneider shells but in 1904 in order to avoid a too direct subordination to France, the artillery commission laid down the condition that this gun could fire also Krupp made shells.

Cartridge for all the Bulgarian shell :
weight : 1.13 kg
shelled : 8.21 kg
charge : 0.58 kg of Rottweil smokeless powder


The fuze for Shrapnel and Brisanzschrapnell was the same. I corrected my previous post.

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Post by Hoplophile » 01 Nov 2006, 23:35

Once more, many thanks!

Do you know if any other country adopted the Ehrhardt Brizanzshrapnell before World War I? I think that the Netherlands did - if only to honor Van Essen, who was its inventor.

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Post by adolpheit » 01 Nov 2006, 23:56

Ehrhardt Brizanzshrapnell was adopted by Rumenia, Bulgaria Holland and USA. German Army only tested it. AFIK these are the only Armies that used Ehrhardt Brizanzshrapnell.

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Post by adolpheit » 05 Nov 2006, 11:00

At least I have also found data for Rumenian shells.

Shell
weight : 6.5 kg
bursting charge: 0.14 kg of Melinite
fuze : percussion - weight : 340 g
max. range : 6400 m

Sharpnel
weight : 6.32 kg
bursting charge : 75 g of back powder
295 bullets x 11 g
fuze : time and percussion - 392 g
max. range : 5500 m

Brisanzschrapnell
weight : 6.5 kg (1.5 kg Granatteil with fuze and 5 kg Schrapnellteil)
bursting charge : 0,22 kg Trotyl (70 g in Granatteil and 150 g between the bullets)
285 bullets x 9 g
fuze : Ehrhardt Doppel Zünder C/1905
max. range : 5800 m

Weight of cartridge with shell : 8.5 kg

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