T35 in the Kampfgruppe "Ritter"
- FRANCY RITTER
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T35 in the Kampfgruppe "Ritter"
Hello friends!!!
I search INFO. and photos on captured Soviet T-35 tank (taken from the Kummersdorf proving ground) used in the Kampfgruppe "Ritter" (Berlin Battle).
Advancing thanks..Francesco
I search INFO. and photos on captured Soviet T-35 tank (taken from the Kummersdorf proving ground) used in the Kampfgruppe "Ritter" (Berlin Battle).
Advancing thanks..Francesco
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Interesting , compare with this identical photo of damaged and abandoned T-35 near Lviv [Lvov] in July 1941 -
http://armoured.vif2.ru/t-35_2.JPG
IIRC Kampfgruppe under the command of Ritter was formed 20.04.1945 and consisted of HQ of 2nd battalion of 36th tank regiment, 4th company of 11th tank regiment, company of armored cars and 614th anti-tank battery with four Sd.Kfz. 184 Elefants [two of them were abandoned near Frankfurt/Oder because of technical problems]. Ritter's unit defended the positions at Berlin suburbs and training area of Zossen. IIRC T-35 from Kummersdorf was attached to the 4th company and that tank was destroyed soon [nevertheless, quite many sources doubt that T-35 was used during the Battle of Berlin in 1945].
http://armoured.vif2.ru/t-35_2.JPG
IIRC Kampfgruppe under the command of Ritter was formed 20.04.1945 and consisted of HQ of 2nd battalion of 36th tank regiment, 4th company of 11th tank regiment, company of armored cars and 614th anti-tank battery with four Sd.Kfz. 184 Elefants [two of them were abandoned near Frankfurt/Oder because of technical problems]. Ritter's unit defended the positions at Berlin suburbs and training area of Zossen. IIRC T-35 from Kummersdorf was attached to the 4th company and that tank was destroyed soon [nevertheless, quite many sources doubt that T-35 was used during the Battle of Berlin in 1945].
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Yes, I know, and that is why I posted this identical photo [the only difference - soldier with coat]. Almost all sources mention this photo as damaged and abandoned T-35 in July 1941 near Lvov, so this could be the wide-spread mistake [or trees lost their leaves because of strong combat?! ]. AFAIK the summer 1941 was very hot in West Russia.
The same photo [you need to click on the file name when it appear] -
http://www.mk-armour.narod.ru/1995/02/Photo_37.jpg As for me - I think that the photo could be made in Kummersdorf [one T-35 was transported to Kummersdorf in autumn 1941] not in Lviv in summer 1941, also note German inscriptions on board [mark of thickness of armor?]. The T-35 on photo is from Soviet 68th tank regiment of 34th tank division.
Germans captured several [not one] T-35 according to some sources.
PS. Excellent photos of all T-35 [T-35 from Kummersdorf in the end, scroll]
http://grayknight.narod.ru/t-35/T-35.htm
Regards, BP
The same photo [you need to click on the file name when it appear] -
http://www.mk-armour.narod.ru/1995/02/Photo_37.jpg As for me - I think that the photo could be made in Kummersdorf [one T-35 was transported to Kummersdorf in autumn 1941] not in Lviv in summer 1941, also note German inscriptions on board [mark of thickness of armor?]. The T-35 on photo is from Soviet 68th tank regiment of 34th tank division.
Germans captured several [not one] T-35 according to some sources.
PS. Excellent photos of all T-35 [T-35 from Kummersdorf in the end, scroll]
http://grayknight.narod.ru/t-35/T-35.htm
Regards, BP
Last edited by BIGpanzer on 01 Mar 2007, 13:36, edited 2 times in total.
I think that I made a mistake
Thanks BIGpanzer for your link
This T35 's photo has been surely taken in Lvov in 1941, winter and summer!
Another picture of T35 waited to depart to Kummersdorf, July 1941
picture from "The Wehrmacht Weapons Testing Ground at Kummersdorf " by Wolfgang Fleischer page 92.
Sorry Francy
Thanks BIGpanzer for your link
This T35 's photo has been surely taken in Lvov in 1941, winter and summer!
Another picture of T35 waited to depart to Kummersdorf, July 1941
picture from "The Wehrmacht Weapons Testing Ground at Kummersdorf " by Wolfgang Fleischer page 92.
Sorry Francy
Re: T35 in the Kampfgruppe "Ritter"
Hello!
Kampfguppe Ritter which fight in the Berlin suburb in april 1945 use some tanks from Zossen (?) germans tank museum. One known - T-35.
Find new picture
on the next forum
http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=5053&st=0
on the picture on the background two british Cruiser tanks possibly from germans museum. Picture subscription say: "Battle. Berlin city. Pavlus (Paulus-?) mansion. 27.4.1945.
Which information about another tanks from museum in the Kampfgruppe Ritter?
And one picture Panther Ausf G from Kampfgruppe.
Teltov city, Battle, 20.04.1945
With best regards, Vasily.
Kampfguppe Ritter which fight in the Berlin suburb in april 1945 use some tanks from Zossen (?) germans tank museum. One known - T-35.
Find new picture
on the next forum
http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=5053&st=0
on the picture on the background two british Cruiser tanks possibly from germans museum. Picture subscription say: "Battle. Berlin city. Pavlus (Paulus-?) mansion. 27.4.1945.
Which information about another tanks from museum in the Kampfgruppe Ritter?
And one picture Panther Ausf G from Kampfgruppe.
Teltov city, Battle, 20.04.1945
With best regards, Vasily.
Re: T35 in the Kampfgruppe "Ritter"
And one picture more.
Ex-french Char D2 abandoned near Sosic (?) city, 22.4.45.
Ex-french Char D2 abandoned near Sosic (?) city, 22.4.45.
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