Stg.44 in Lebanon!!

[FRANCY RITTER]

Hello!!
Stg.44 in Lebanon, from "Network.54." Forum

[faf_476]

Yes, that is common, esp. the Arab countries using that gun thorugh riots, coz they are so effective against Infantry.
Here in our country there are "some" people using the Arisaka as a riot gun.

But somehow It is shocking and where did that guy obtain that authentic gun?
and It is well preserved.
Thanks for sharing that nice photo!

[Maigewitter]

Yes, that is common, esp. the Arab countries using that gun thorugh riots, coz they are so effective against Infantry.

Ehm...

Common?

What does this gun make more effective than an AK for example?

But somehow It is shocking and where did that guy obtain that authentic gun?

Shocking?
I would say Russia (over some detours).

No offense but your comment doesnt make too much sense imo.

Is it just me or does the buttstock of this gun look not like one from an StG 44.. ?


But thanks to Francy for sharing the interesting pic.

[Laurence Strong]

From Wikipeadia:

"As for the Sturmgewehr itself, it remained in use with the East German Nationale Volksarmee until it was eventually replaced with variants of the AK-47 assault rifle. Argentina manufactured their own trial versions of the StG 44 in the late 1940s and early 1950s [3], but made the decision to adopt the FN FAL instead in 1955 [4].

The StG 44 is currently in service with the Lebanese Forces [5]. It is also used in limited numbers by irregular forces in some countries in the Horn of Africa and the Middle East."

[faf_476]

I think you did not know that the Origin of the well known AK44 is from stg.44, yes they are the same SMG's the same uses, and most of all the same model, the diff. between the Ak44 is the magazine as well as other parts of that gun.

Yes, that would really a shocking photo, coz people like us are getting harder to find that kind of gun.
I am not offending your opinion. yet somehow we are friends..
LOL!

[Maigewitter]

I will not answer this post. Its even senselesser than the first.

But its the AK-47 not the AK-44, and for the thousand time ..the StG 44 is not the precedessor of the AK-47.

[faf_476]

Ow, sorry for my Itching hands, and I know there is something I am wrong, but you should know that most and foremost AK"47" came from the model of Stg. 44. strongly believe with that.

[Maigewitter]

The StG 44 was the thought-provoking impulse for constructing also a different weapon, but both systems operate differently. Technically the StG 44 is closer to the G 3.

[dect]

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Stg.44 in Lebanon, from

Hello
Great pics, thanks for sharing! The rifle has bakelite grips and magazine floor plate reversed

I wonder if he knows how much is that gun worth

Regards
Jacek

[yabint]

Technically the StG 44 is closer to the G 3.

Maigewitter I agree with most of your comments, but this one is total baloney. The G.3 is recoil operated with a belayed blow-back roller lock bolt. It is the direct ancestor of the StG.45(M) via the CETME in spain.

Pretty much the only thing it has in common with the StG.44 is that it uses a lot of pressed steal in construction (but then so does the first model AK-47 and the AKM).

[Maigewitter]

I didnt said that they both have the same operating system. But when you look at both weapons stripped, you will see a lot of resemblance. Of course the StG 45 (M) is a closer "relative" to the G 3.

So its not (total) baloney.


best regards

[Brian Bedwell]

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Stg.44 in Lebanon, from "Network.54." Forum

The guy behind him kind of looks like he is trying to grab it.

[yabint]

I didnt said that they both have the same operating system. But when you look at both weapons stripped, you will see a lot of resemblance.

Yes you'll see some resembalances but less than there are between the StG.44 and the AK-47. Thats my point, that the StG.44 has more in common with the AK-47 than it does with the G.3

[Maigewitter]

Oh dear..
Finally here are some pics, maybe you believe it now.



and the bolts in a direct compare (AK-47 and StG 44)

[Rikard Hufschmied]

Yes, that is common, esp. the Arab countries using that gun thorugh riots, coz they are so effective against Infantry.
Here in our country there are "some" people using the Arisaka as a riot gun.

But somehow It is shocking and where did that guy obtain that authentic gun?
and It is well preserved.
Thanks for sharing that nice photo!

Not at all shocking, the MP44/StG44 was widely distributed through the Middle East mostly from DDR (East-German) stocks. They have turned up in pictures from the region regularly for the last 30 years, the first one I saw was of Palestinians training with it in the Beka-Valley, Lebanon in the 70's. It's probably not a first-line weapon anywhere, more likely it's held in stock for emergencies and as long as there's a sufficient supply of ammunition for it.

The MP44/StG 44 in itself is getting somewhat rare (not that many were produced in the first place), but is expensive (or really expensive) only where further import is banned by legislation (the US) or by a difference in deactivation (UK old spec vs. new '95 spec deactivation). Not a good example but, during the ill-fated "Restore Hope" operation in Somalia you could pick one up for 50US$ (same price as an AK) at almost any weapons bazaar in Mogadishu and I've been told that the price is about the same today.