Could this be in Le Havre?
Could this be in Le Havre?
Hello,
I am trying to identify this photo. I showed it to Jos and he thinks this could be in Le Havre, eventually the M.K.B. Stranden. Perhaps some of our French members can help us out here?
Many thanks and best wishes
Peter
I am trying to identify this photo. I showed it to Jos and he thinks this could be in Le Havre, eventually the M.K.B. Stranden. Perhaps some of our French members can help us out here?
Many thanks and best wishes
Peter
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Hi Peter and Arthur
Here a other picture of the H.K.B. St Adresse 2./1254 ,
the harbour pieres and the buildings looks the same .
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... ht=adresse
Regards Jos
Here a other picture of the H.K.B. St Adresse 2./1254 ,
the harbour pieres and the buildings looks the same .
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... ht=adresse
Regards Jos
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Hello Peter and Alain
Here a discussion on the 10.5 cm S.K.C/28 http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... c&start=15
a other option could be that the guns on the photo from Peter are guns from ships and where used as coast artillery ( for example in La Rochelle
( Z 23 ) and B. Harfleur ( Kondor ) ???? I know also that the original list give the H.K.B. Stranden 4./1254 with 10.5 cm S.K.C/32
Regards Jos
Here a discussion on the 10.5 cm S.K.C/28 http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... c&start=15
a other option could be that the guns on the photo from Peter are guns from ships and where used as coast artillery ( for example in La Rochelle
( Z 23 ) and B. Harfleur ( Kondor ) ???? I know also that the original list give the H.K.B. Stranden 4./1254 with 10.5 cm S.K.C/32
Regards Jos
I agree with Sebastien:
1) the area behind the soldiers on Peter’s picture looks like an industrial area with marshalling yards, in particular with the big hangar and the three huge buildings that we see again on the left of Jos’ picture. It doesn’t look at all like the big villas and houses built between Ste Adresse and the harbor, even before 1944.
But there is no doubt that Jos’ and Peter’s pictures show the same harbor (same three big buildings).
2) In addition, the harbor jetties seems to be a bit crowded with buildings compared to this photo from a French website “La Normandie sous l’occupation”:
http://14910.net/occup/134.htm
3) That may not prove anything but here is a picture of one of the 10,5 cm K35(t) on an emplacement at Fort Ste Adresse:
http://lehavre.1944.free.fr/42Afortsta.htm
It is much simpler than the emplacement on Jos’ picture but it could have taken at an earlier time.
And it is not Cherbourg either.
I wonder if it could be somewhere along the coast of the Baltic sea (Germany, Poland, Baltic states or Russia). The buildings on the right of the background on Peter's picture look Germanic to me.
We could cross-check the coastal batteries with 10,5 cm K35(t) and those with 10,5 cm SK C/28.
Emmanuel
1) the area behind the soldiers on Peter’s picture looks like an industrial area with marshalling yards, in particular with the big hangar and the three huge buildings that we see again on the left of Jos’ picture. It doesn’t look at all like the big villas and houses built between Ste Adresse and the harbor, even before 1944.
But there is no doubt that Jos’ and Peter’s pictures show the same harbor (same three big buildings).
2) In addition, the harbor jetties seems to be a bit crowded with buildings compared to this photo from a French website “La Normandie sous l’occupation”:
http://14910.net/occup/134.htm
3) That may not prove anything but here is a picture of one of the 10,5 cm K35(t) on an emplacement at Fort Ste Adresse:
http://lehavre.1944.free.fr/42Afortsta.htm
It is much simpler than the emplacement on Jos’ picture but it could have taken at an earlier time.
And it is not Cherbourg either.
I wonder if it could be somewhere along the coast of the Baltic sea (Germany, Poland, Baltic states or Russia). The buildings on the right of the background on Peter's picture look Germanic to me.
We could cross-check the coastal batteries with 10,5 cm K35(t) and those with 10,5 cm SK C/28.
Emmanuel
Hello all
I for one think it is Le Havre:
Look at the buildings in the background, same shape.
Look at the Harbour Entrance, same shape.
But Sebastien, who are from Le Havre says that it is not from Le Havre --- well, that leaves me in doubt - so, what do you say????
Regards
Kurt
kstdk
I for one think it is Le Havre:
Look at the buildings in the background, same shape.
Look at the Harbour Entrance, same shape.
But Sebastien, who are from Le Havre says that it is not from Le Havre --- well, that leaves me in doubt - so, what do you say????
Regards
Kurt
kstdk
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Kurt,
I leaved in Le Havre for several years. As Sebastien has said and I've repeated in my previous post, the buildings on the left definitely don't match the type of residential area between Ste-Adresse and the harbor that has existed over a century. Therefore, since Peter's picture cannot be from Le Havre, Jos' picture cannot be from Le Havre either since their locations match.
Emmanuel
I leaved in Le Havre for several years. As Sebastien has said and I've repeated in my previous post, the buildings on the left definitely don't match the type of residential area between Ste-Adresse and the harbor that has existed over a century. Therefore, since Peter's picture cannot be from Le Havre, Jos' picture cannot be from Le Havre either since their locations match.
Emmanuel
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Hi Peter
I have rechecked the photo's of the s.10 cm K 35 (t) and recieved some others
from Alain Chazette and I am 100% sure that the guns are same all the details
are the same the boxes on the trail , the place of the hammer and the special ends
of the trail for the fixing blades .
According to my information there were no 10.5 cm K 35 (t) guns used in Norway
and Denmark in H.K.B. ???. The ones in France are around Le Havre ( 2./1254 and 1./1254) , Mers ( 3./1252 ) and Agde ( 2./H.K.A.L.A.101 ) .
Any corrections or additions are most welcome .
Regards Jos
I have rechecked the photo's of the s.10 cm K 35 (t) and recieved some others
from Alain Chazette and I am 100% sure that the guns are same all the details
are the same the boxes on the trail , the place of the hammer and the special ends
of the trail for the fixing blades .
According to my information there were no 10.5 cm K 35 (t) guns used in Norway
and Denmark in H.K.B. ???. The ones in France are around Le Havre ( 2./1254 and 1./1254) , Mers ( 3./1252 ) and Agde ( 2./H.K.A.L.A.101 ) .
Any corrections or additions are most welcome .
Regards Jos