SS-Hauptsturmführer Jakob Lobmeyer

[Ponomarenko]

Hi All!

I need info about SS-Hauptsturmführer Jakob Lobmeyer (RK 28 Apr 1945), short bio, Dob, Dod, SS-Nr., promotions, career. I know he served in StuG-Bat. "Reich" during 1941 and he was Kdr. SS-Pz.Jg.Abt 561 in 1945.

Thanks.

[freddiefro]

I have this:

Lobmeyer, Jakob
SS-Hauptsturmführer
Born: 12.10.1918 in Lachen (Weinstraße)
Died: 17.04.1989 in Neustadt (Weinstraße)
SS-Nr.: 286 598
Promotions:
SS-Ustuf: 09.11.1943;
SS-Ostuf: 09.11.1944;
SS-Hstuf: 1945
Career:
Hitler Jugend: 01.03.1933 - 15.11.1934
Arbeitsdienst: 01.10.1935 - 26.09.1936
2./SS-Sta."Deutschland": 01.10.1936
SS-Junkerschule Tölz: 1938/39
SS-Stu.Gesch. Battr. 2: 07.1941
SS-Stu.Gesch. Battr. 5: 09.1942
Stu.Gesch. Ausb. u. Ers.Abt.: 09.11.1943
SS-Stu.Gesch. Battr.105: 01.1944
Adj. SS-Aufkl.Abt. 505: 01.08.1944 - 20.09.1944
SS-Pz.Jg.-Schule: 20.09.1944 - 05.01.1945
SS-Pz.Jg.Ausb. u. Ers.Abt. 3: 05.01.1945 - 25.02.1945
Chef SS-Jagd.Pz.Kp. 38/15. Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS: 25.02.1945
Kdr. SS-Pz.Jg.Abt. 561: 1945
Decorations & Awards:
Eisernes Kreuz 2. Klasse
Eisernes Kreuz 1. Klasse
Panzerkampfwagenabzeichen in Silber
Medaille "Winterschlacht im Osten 1941/42" (Ostmedaille)
Verwundetenabzeichen 1939 in Silber
Bronzenes SA-Sportabzeichen
Reichssportabzeichen in Bronze

Jakob Lobmeyer is in Krätschmer and in Fellgiebel as having been awarded the Ritterkreuz des Eisernen Kreuzes on 28.04.1945 as SS-Hauptsturmführer and Kdr.SS-Jagd.Pz.Abt.561, although Fellgiebel notes that this is un-confirmed. Scherzer points out that, while there is a valid approval for the award, "Jedoch findet sich im Bundesarchiv darüber kein Nachweis" (there is no evidence whatsoever in the Federal Archives concerning this).

-Fred

[Mark C. Yerger]

He also won the Honor Clasp (BAKO confirmed). Nice man with great humor, met him several times and wrote with him for a number of years.

[Hardigan]

And he also won the Panzerkampfabzeichen ''50'' on 20.04.1945

[Bernd R]

Question about the Honor Roll Clasp. As Shawn asked over in the ABR forum - what does the unit designation mean ?

Lobmeyer, Jakob, 00.00.1945, SS-Obersturmführer, 15./SS-Pz.Jagdkp.

If I'm interpreting the above Bio by Fred correctly
Chef., SS-Jagd.Pz.Kp.38/15.Waffen-Grenadier-Division: 25.02.1945
awarded as Chef of Kp. 38 of the 15. division (that is placement of "15." is confused) ?

Additional question about
Born: 12.10.1918 in Lachen (Weinstraße)
Died: 17.04.1989 in Neistadt (Weinstraße)
born in Lachen near Neustadt (Weinstraße) in the Palatinate ; it is today Lachen-Speyerdorf.
per Veit Scherzer died : Staderkirchen / Austria
is that correct ? during holidays ?

Bernd

[freddiefro]

Bernd,

Attached is the entry from Lobmeyer's "Orange Card" in his Personalakten (John P. Moore's "Führerliste der Waffen-SS") showing "SS-Jagd.Pz.Kp. 38/15. Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS." Perhaps I am reading this wrong. As far as your observation about his place of death, while I did notice Scherzer's information about Staderkirchen, I chose to use John P. Moore's information on Lobmeyer's place of death being in Neustadt / Weinstr. (from the "Führerliste"). Krätschmer also has his place of death being in Neustadt.

-Fred

[Bernd R]

Thanks, Fred

what I just meant is : our colleague Shawn took this data set

15./SS-Pz.Jagdkp.

which should give the unit designation at time of his Honor Roll Clasp award.
And I presume this data set is confused. It should be to read SS-Jagd.Pz.Kp.38/15.Waffen-Grenadier-Division as you said. So, the request is about the unit designation and if the EBS indeed was with that unit.

Concerning the place of death, hm. Info score is 2:1 then. We have the choice to believe the one or the other right now.

Bernd

[Marc Rikmenspoel]

About Lobmeyer's late war assignment, his unit was intended to be a Stug. Batterie for the 15. Waffen-Grenadier-Div. But it instead was combined with other elements on the Oder front around February 1945, was redesignated as SS-Panzerjäger-Abt. 561 (in part because it actually used Hetzer), and was assigned to V. SS-Gebirgskorps.

You can see in one of Gordon Williamson's Aces books that Lobmeyer claimed to have been awarded the EL, and to hold the Panzer Assault Badge 200! I believe this was Lobmeyer's own claim, and not a misunderstanding by Williamson because Lobmeyer was one of the editors of the Deutschland Reg.'s veteran history, and in it, he's listed as winning the EL on April 28, 1945, after winning the RK eight days earlier.

[Bernd R]

Thanks Marc !

Bernd

[Phil Don]

Hi

An old topic but a question:
He was in Junkerschule Bad Tölz in 38/39 and only promoted Ustuf in 1943 ? Someone know why ?

Regards

Phil D.

[Georg_S]

Here is a nice photo of Jakob Lobmeyer as SS-Ustuf. from my hideouts.

/Georg

[Halfdan S.]

A bit puzzled glancing through Franz Thomas: Die Ritterkreuzträger der Deutschen Wehrmacht 1939-1945, Teil I: Sturmartillerie, p. 174 - apparently Lobmeyer was awarded his RK (20.4.1945) and Eichenlaub (2.5.1945) as SS-Hauptsturmführer, Kommandeur SS-Jagd-Panzer-Abteilung 561 zur besonderen Verwendung/SS-Führungshauptamt IN 6 - Verteidigungs-Bereitstellungs-Kommando Berlin …

What was (SS-Führungshauptamt IN 6 -) Verteidigungs-Bereitstellungs-Kommando Berlin? Was the SS-Jagd-Panzer-Abteilung 561 z.b.V. marked out to take part in the defense of Berlin?

As far as I have been able to find out 561 didn't get closer than to Trebbin, South-East of Potsdam … Krätschmer doesn't supply any further info. Anyone?

Best
Halfdan S.

[Dieter Zinke]

Dear Halfdan,
an award of the Eichenlaub [oak leaves] four to five weeks after the Knight's Cross would be extremely unusual! Now, not even the proposal - and certainly not the awarding of the Knight's Cross in the traditional records of the Heerespersonalamt, which are kept in the Bundesarchiv, has been proven. In other words: Lobmeyer is properly neither decorated with the Knight's Cross nor with the oak leaves.
Veit Scherzer is the absolute, repeatedly quoted expert who has researched the most thorough. His book is the corresponding standard work worldwide. His journal "Ritterkreuzarchiv" is groundbreaking.
The publications on questionable Knight's Cross awards by Franz Thomas, Günter Wegmann, Krätschmer, Fellgiebel (along with its OdR) should be shredded so that their falsifications of history finally stop.

Cheers
Dieter Z.

[Halfdan S.]

Vielen Dank, lieber Dieter!

I agree that if nothing else Lobmeyer's Eichenlaub on May 2nd seem questionable - who should have awarded it to him? According to Thomas both the RK and EL were awarded to Lobmayer as Kommandeur of a Battlegroup in "Verteidigungs-Bereitstellungs-Kommando Berlin". In Berlin both Hitler and Burgdorf were dead on May 2nd, which leaves Mohnke, who as I remember was commissioned to hand out RK, but would he have if Lobmeyer didn't even take part in the Battle of Berlin?! Seems unlikely that a proposal should have gone into Berlin and somebody taking time out to award it on May 2nd after Hitler's death. Anyway my interest was rather whether Lobmeyer was any closer to Berlin than Trebbin?

And especially looking for more info on this "Verteidigungs-Bereitstellungs-Kommando Berlin"?! "Bereitstellung" rather sound like some Kommando under Reymann or his predessors prior to the Battle itself!

Regards
Halfdan S.

[pim]

Hope I'm not going off topic; but I do not believe Mohnke "was commissioned to hand out RK". Nor can I believe anyone else was.