Translation Requested - Treblinka Document

[Potyondi]

Can anyone direct me to a translation of this document or provide one themselves? I'd be deeply grateful. I apologise for the size, but I kept it large for legibility's sake.

It's from The Death Camp Treblinka: A Documentary, Edited by Alexander Donat, p. 255.



Thank you,

Pot.

[Roberto]

Can anyone direct me to a translation of this document or provide one themselves? I'd be deeply grateful. I apologise for the size, but I kept it large for legibility's sake.

An interesting document. I will translate it for you.

[Potyondi]

Thank you Roberto.

I think I will use this thread to share some of the other documents contained in the book as well, in case they haven't been seen by some forum-goers.

Taken from:


Pages 262-63 and 266.

[Roberto]

Potyondi,

Not that it bothers me personally, but I think you are in violation of this forum's guidelines regarding atrocity photographs and will soon be asked by our host to convert your images into links.

As to Donat's book, I'm interested in its contents and will now send you a PM in this respect.

Cheers,

Roberto

[David Thompson]

Potyondi -- Please check the guidelines on atrocity photographs, posted on the "sticky" at the top of the index page. That guideline reads as follows:

"I don't care who is supposed to have committed the atrocities in the photographs. Whether the subject matter is Nazi, communist, ethnic, regional, racial, religious or any other type of atrocity, links and descriptions should be posted for the following classes of photographs and illustrations:

(1) Mutilated persons, alive or dead;

(2) Severed body parts, insufficient in themselves to constitute a person; and

(3) Dead persons who are not only dead, but who clearly appear to be the worse for wear."

I think illustrations #2 and #4 fall outside the guidelines, so they have been removed.

If you got the illustrations from an internet site, I'd prefer you post the link, rather than the photograph.

Those photographs appear to be available at the following links:

heap of dead, naken bodies at
http://www.geocities.com/potvid/chamber.txt and

skulls and skeletal fragments at
http://www.geocities.com/potvid/skulls.txt

[Hans]

Hi Potyondi,

do you have more scanned German documents from the book?

Thank you!

[Potyondi]

Hello Hans,

Of course! Though you will need a fast computer to view them at a tolerable speed, since they're quite large.

I have uploaded all the photographs, maps and diagrams from the book onto my website. The quality of the images is slightly lower this time around simply because I kept them large and was scanning them in batches. Enjoy.

From: Donat, Alexander, ed. The Death Camp Treblinka: A Documentary. New York: Holocaust Library, 1979.

page 146: http://www.geocities.com/potyond/map.txt
page 255: http://www.geocities.com/potvid/document.txt
pages 256-57: http://www.geocities.com/potyond/jews.txt
pages 258-59: http://www.geocities.com/potyond/train.txt
pages 260-61: http://www.geocities.com/potyond/women.txt
pages 262-63: http://www.geocities.com/potyond/bodies.txt
pages 264-65: http://www.geocities.com/potyond/building2.txt
pages 266-67: http://www.geocities.com/potyond/survivors.txt
page 268: http://www.geocities.com/potyond/stone.txt
pages 318-19: http://www.geocities.com/potyond/diagram.txt

Of particular interest is the 8th link, with respect to page 266. A reference to it appears in a Revisionist article hosted by the IHR, which effectively undermines another IHR article on the same topic:

In the area where the gas chambers were supposed to have been located, the commission's team of 30 excavation workers reportedly found "human remains, partially in the process of decay," and an unspecified amount of ash. Untouched sandy soil was reached at 7.5 meters, at which point the digging was halted. An accompanying photograph of an excavated pit reveals some large bones. (note 63)

[...]

63. Facsimile of report, Nov. 13, 1945, in: Biuletyn Glownej Komisji... (Warsaw), Vol. 26, 1975, pp. 183-185. (Translation provided to the author).; Note also photo of skulls and large bones on p. 151. This is similar to the photo in: A. Donat, ed., Death Camp Treblinka, p. 266.

Emphasis mine. Souce of quote: http://ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p133_Allen.html

The other IHR article it undermines is a supposed forensic survey done of the Treblinka camp site using "ground-penetrating radar" by Richard Krege in 1999, funded by the Adelaide Institute [read: Revisionist organisation]. Krege claims to have found no evidence of bodies whatsoever at the Treblinka site, and moreover, no soil disturbance at all -- an evaluation he claims is accurate despite the 60-year time gap between the operation of the camp and his study. His claims seem absurd, since even holocaust deniers accept that there were deaths at the camps. They usually attribute this to disease and 'rare' caprice by the guards. It is laughable, even for a Revisionist, to claim that the SS shipped Jews supposedly killed from Typhus to their hometowns for burial. Thus, even a Revisionist must acknowledge the existance of a mass grave at the camp, even if only for the Jews who died in transit or from disease in the camps! The Stroop Report, of course, makes it quite clear that this was the case. The fact that Krege found nothing says more about Revisionists than it does the holocaust. In any event, here is the article:

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v19/v19n3p20_radar.html

[Potyondi]

Also, here's is Roberto's translation of the document posted above. Not particularly damning, but it's always nice to know.

Dr. med. Irmfried Eberl
SS-Untersturmführer
Warsaw
Palais Brühl/Head of SS and Police
Warsaw, 07.07.1942


To the
Commissary for the Jewish Quarter in Warsaw

[stamp of receipt by the Commissary for the Jewish Quarter in Warsaw, 7 July 1942]

Warsaw
Palais Brühl

Subject: Work Camp Treblinka

The work camp Treblinka will be ready for operation on Saturday, 11.07.1942.
For final completion the following objects are still needed:

1,000 clips for the lighting lead, 9 mm;
20 electrical supports with switch
20 electrical supports without switch
3 meters of conveyor[?] belt [literal translation is “drive belt”]
1 table drill press
3 kg of nut tree pickle
3 kg of pickle oak bright
1 field furnace

We request speediest delivery. The commencement of operation is not affected by the supply of the above mentioned objects, as the installation will be made able to work on a provisional basis until Saturday.

Heil Hitler!

[signature of Eberl]

[Hans]

I get a "This page is not available. We're sorry, but this page is currently unavailable for viewing." error message with all links. Perhaps Yahoo/Geo Cities does not allow direct links to images?

[Hans]

I found that the links work if you substitute *.jpg with *.txt as you did with the first images.

[Potyondi]

Hans,

Does it work now?

EDIT: Ahh, good to hear.

[Hans]

Just out of curiousity, is THIS standard and official at Geocities or a trick of you to link images? 8)

[Potyondi]

It's a standard trick.

[michael mills]

It is interesting that Eberl's letter refers to the "Arbeitslager Treblinka".

There was in fact a work-camp officially called "Arbeitslager Treblinka". It was situated at a quarry at the end of a spur-line leading from Treblinka railway station. The function of this work camp was to provide the labour force for the quarry.

Another camp was situated about halfway along the above-mentioned spur-line. It was referred to as Treblinka II or T-2, and is generally held to have been the extermination camp to which Jews were deported, mainly from Warsaw.

After the establishment of Treblinka II, the original work-camp was referred to as Treblinka I.

It is a moot point whether Eberl is referring to Treblinka I or Treblinka II when he uses the word "Arbeitslager". Perhaps both camps were considered two branches of a single camp, and the designation "Arbeitslager Treblinka" was used for both.

During the War there were also isolated references to a Treblinka III, which may be an alternative site for the extermination camp. Here is some information on it:

4. Please find enclosed a copy of the comprehensive official report of the Polish Government-in-Exile in London on German concentration camps prepared for the April 1943, Bermuda Conference of the Allies (Encl. 5). This report is based upon the investigation of the Treblinka camps requested by the Western Allied governments and ordered by "Grot"-Rowecki, the Commander-in-Chief of the Polish Home Army. It specified that Treblinka-I was a "forced labor camp". The Treblinka-II camp, the alleged site of Demjanjuk’s crimes, was denoted as a "concentration camp proper", without the designation of "death camp". The Treblinka-III camp was listed as "the death camp" for the Jews and was reported to be located at Czerwony Bor. As late as in 1944, its existance was also mentioned in the renowned wartime publication Ghetto Speaks published in New York (Encl. 6). The remote Czerwony Bor (Red Forest) was (and is) located 40 kilometers north of the Treblinka-I and Treblinka-II camps. Additional documents regarding Treblinka-III are available from the Polish Historical Society in the USA (tel. 203-325-1079) and archives of the Polish Underground Study Trust in London (tel. 011-4481-992-6057).

If Demjanjuk (or Marchenko) had been a mass murderer of Jews, he was placed at the wrong Treblinka camp and location by the witnesses at his Jerusalem trial. Thus, there is a conflict between wartime Underground and Allied governmental reports on one hand, and the findings of the Israeli trial court on the other hand. Therefore, please incorporate the report of the Polish Government-in-Exile in your verdict.

5. You might rightly ask why during Demjanjuk’s trials nobody mentioned the Treblinka-III camp, at which took place annihilation of deported Jews. The answer is the following: no Jews who entered this place at the sequestered Red Forest survived to tell of it.

Here is the link to the site where the above information is posted.

http://www.ukar.org/kateln01.shtml

It is a nationalist Ukrainian site, and I cannot vouch for its veracity. Nevertheless, the information seems genuine.

[Charles Bunch]

It is interesting that Eberl's letter refers to the "Arbeitslager Treblinka".

There was in fact a work-camp officially called "Arbeitslager Treblinka". It was situated at a quarry at the end of a spur-line leading from Treblinka railway station. The function of this work camp was to provide the labour force for the quarry.

Another camp was situated about halfway along the above-mentioned spur-line. It was referred to as Treblinka II or T-2, and is generally held to have been the extermination camp to which Jews were deported, mainly from Warsaw.

After the establishment of Treblinka II, the original work-camp was referred to as Treblinka I.
It is a moot point whether Eberl is referring to Treblinka I or Treblinka II when he uses the word "Arbeitslager". Perhaps both camps were considered two branches of a single camp, and the designation "Arbeitslager Treblinka" was used for both.

Treblinka I was established in June of 1941. Treblinka II was finished in July of 1942, the date of the letter. Therefore, the document refers to Treblinka II.