Panzerjäger Abteilung 525 Italy

[reinaart]

Currently there is a pic on ebay of a Marder II (r) belonging to Pzjg. Abt. 525. According to the seller this pic was taken in Italy. I'm surprised that this unit still had one or more MarderII (r) in addition to its Nashorns. According to Panzer Tracts 7-2 this unit still had 4 operational Marder II on 30 June 1943. I wonder if the Marder really made it to Italy, or could the pic have been taken on the Eastern front instead? Some info on the unit taken from http://panzerjaeger-info.fuehr-online.de/html/WH2.html :


Panzerabwehr-Abteilung (mot.) 525
Panzerjäger-Abteilung 525 (from 1 Apr 40)
schwere Panzerjäger-Abteilung 525 (Nashorn) (from 1 Jun 43 )

26 Aug 39 mobilized in WK IX
3 Nov 39 re-equipped with 8.8cm guns
10 May 40 three companies (@ 4 x 8.8cm Pak)
3 Dec 40 arrive in Bouillon area, France, assigned to 16th Army, Army Group A
22 Jun 41 XXXXIX Mountain Corps, Seventeenth Army, Army Group South (3.7cm guns)
23 Jul 41 elemensts attached to 100. JŠger-Division, LII Corps, 17th Army, Army Group South
2 Sep 41 3./ attached to 100. JŠger-Division, LV Corps, 17th Army, Army Group South
Nov 41 17th Army, Army Group South
1942 re-equipped with 7.62cm SP guns
May 43 5 Nashorns issued
Jun 43 15 Nashorns issued
[Niehorster: 28 Jun 42 1st Panzer Army reserves, Army Group South with one company of Bohler 47mm guns and two companies of Marder IIs]
8 Jun 43 arrive at Coetquidan Training Area, 7th Army
Jul 43 25 Nashorns issued
29 Jul 43 rail-loading for southern France, Army Group Felber, completed
23 Aug 43 rail-loading for Italy completed
30 Aug 43 arrive in the La Spezia area
2 Dec 43 assigned to XI Fliegerkorps
3 Feb 44 I Parachute Corps, 14th Army, Anzio
May 44 5 Nashorns issued
9-13 May 44 transferred from Anzio front to 10th Army
Sep 44 20 Nashorns issued
Oct 44 10 Nashorns issued
Nov 44 10 Nashorns issued, Italy with only 2 companies (?)
late 1944 one company to have received Jagdpanthers, but never delivered
2 Feb 45 LXXIII Corps, 10th Army, Army Group Ligurien
Mar 45 LXXVI Corps, 10th Army, Army Group Ligurien
FtF: Sep I 39, First Army, Army Group C, 1x 1-10 mot AT II 525
FoF: May I 40, High Command Reserves, 1x 1-10 mot AT II 525
TFH: Sep I 40, 1x 1-10 mot AT II 525
BF: Dec I 40, First Panzer Group, 1x 1-10 mot AT II 525
SE: Jun II 41, 17th Army, Army Group South, 1x 1-10 mot AT II 525; Jun I 43, withdraw
SF: Jul I 43, South, 1x 1-2-10 mot AT II 525

Ebay pic (bottom of the page), the next page also shows some pics from the same unit. The fact that there is a British "beute" truck seems to indicate that these pics were also taken in Italy:
http://www.ebay.de/sch/Fotos-/15504/i.h ... c=25&rt=nc

Arjan

[Martin Block]

Arjan,

Please forget about that one quickly!
On 15.4.1943 Gen.Kdo. XXXIX. Gebirgs-A.K. ordered Pz.Jg.Abt. 525 to hand over its remaining Pak-Sfl. (4 Marder II 7,62 cm) until 22.4.1943 to the 50. Inf.Div., and return to Germany as 'Personaleinheit', i.e. personnel only with no heavy weapons/equipment. The unit was then fully converted to 'Nashorn'.

Martin Block

[reinaart]

Thanks a lot Martin for clearing up this matter. I already had my suspicions but this means that both the info in Panzer Tracts and the info given by the ebay seller is misleading (or simply wrong ....).

Regards,

Arjan

[Joda]

Hi all,
Concerning the Pz.Jg.Abt.525, is it known the vehicles and "Nashorns" in the different companies? 1944 and 1945.
In particular, how was the Stab and Stabskp equipped?
Thank you in advance

[Алексей]

Gliederung 1.04.45:

[Joda]

thank you!

[kiwibirb]

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PzJg 39 is the Panzerjager IV L/48