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Re: missing first names of Colonels with RDA-dates

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Post by Heimatschuss » 03 Nov 2013, 15:40

Hello,
Rossano wrote: OTL.(1.4.42) Rapps
the 1965 edition of Deutsches Soldatenjahrbuch (p.266) has an Oberst a.D. Rapps, head of Kameradschaft der ehemaligen Eisenbahn-Pioniere Frankfurt/Main [something like Brotherhood of Former (Military) Railroad Engineers].

Any chance that this OLT. Rapps received further promotion?

The Frankfurt address Goldsteinstraße 59/63 provided in Soldatenjahrbuch for the brotherhood is identical with that of a construction company Jakob Rapps Brunnenbau, a specialist for well drilling and water supply. The company had its' seat at Goldsteinstraße from 1890 till 1998.

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Re: missing first names of Colonels with RDA-dates

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Post by Rudolf44 » 17 Jun 2014, 10:39

Hello,
Rossano wrote: Oberst(1.2.44) von Bonin
According to DAL for E-Offz. of 1935 there is a Hauptmann (E) (01.08.34) Gerd Jürgen von Bonin who serve in Reiter-Rgt. 9. He is still listed witk Kav.Rgt. 9 in Stellenbesetzungen of 1937 and 1938. His RDA was changed in 1938 and backdated on 01.02.34 (109)

By the way, do you have more infos about him except the two entries in his Karteikarte ?

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Re: missing first names of Colonels with RDA-dates

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Post by Heimatschuss » 17 Jun 2014, 22:10

Hello,

here's his entry in GHdA (2001, pp.62):
Oberst a.D.
Gerd Jürgen Rudolf Oskar Swantus von Bonin
* Hohensalza 14.07.1895
+ Münster in Westfalen 19.10.1967

oo I. Schönaich, Kreis Sorau, 26.11.1921 with Eleonore v. Plehwe
* Berlin 21.9.1900
+ (of wounds after fighter bomber attack) Lübeck 23.04.1945, horse-breaker at Wehrmacht-Reit-
und Fahrschule
Warendorf. Daughter of Major a.D. Joachim Hans v. P. auf Schönaich and Martha v. Plehwe

oo II. Lüdenscheid, 28.11.1947 with Ruth Thormann
* Dortmund 30.10.1922
Daughter of salesman Karl Thormann and Elisabeth Wirth
I have a feeling this Gerd Jürgen von Bonin could be identical to the Oberstleutnant von Bonin serving in 1943/1944 at the Aufklärungs- und Kavallerieschule in Bromberg (http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 5#p1137175) because in August 1939 the cavalry regiments were broken up into Aufklärungs-Abteilungen (reconnaissance battalions). For the units formed from Kavallerie-Regiment 9 look at http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... /KavR9.htm.

This Oberstleutnant von Bonin in Bromberg was transferred in April 1944 and became commander of Jäger-Regiment (L) 39 (Dann, 1993, p.253). There he arrived as an Oberst so must have been promoted between July 1943 and April 1944. An officer of Jäger-Regiment (L) 39 described him in his diary as an 'older man'.

Can someone confirm this was Gerd-Jürgen von Bonin?

References:

Dann, Walter
Die Problematik der Luftwaffen-Felddivisionen, dargestellt am Beispiel der 20. Luftwaffen-Felddivision.
in:
Damerau, Heinz (Ed.)
Deutsches Soldatenjahrbuch 1993.
Vol.41; Schild-Verlag; Munich; 1993; pp.245-255

Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels
Vol.126; Verlag C.A. Starke; Limburg/Lahn; 2001

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Re: missing first names of Colonels with RDA-dates

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Post by Rossano » 17 Jun 2014, 22:49

Hello Torsten, I too believe that he was Gerd-Jürgen. Can You reply to my email of 23.5 ?
Can You, and Dave too (and possibly Hans and others too), reply pls. to the following questions ?
First name and any assignements for Otl. 1.3.42(107) (from A.L. Zwickau) Adolph ?
Otl. Aschen, Rudolf: his Karteikarte reads end 44 by Fest.Pi.Kdr.XI, but wrong as Kdr.XI exhisted no more, what correct ?
First name and any assignements (5.43-5.45 only !) of Otl.(1.3.42) (from Rgt.74) Ballerstedt ? Was he 45 Kdt. Stalag XI A ?
First name and any assignements (from end 44 on only !) of Maj.(1.3.41), Otl.(1.9.44) (from Rgt.82) Bantje ? Maybe Karl-Heinz ?
First name and any assignements (from end 44 on only !) of Otl.(1.2.44) (from Rgt.39) Bär ?
Otl. v. Bargen Jakob : his Karteikarte reads 20.6-15.7.43 IIa 90.AK, but wrong as Korps exhisted no more, what correct ?
First name and any assignements (up to 11.44 only !) of Otl.(1.2.44) (from Pi.Btl.8) Bartels ? Maybe Johannes ?
First name of Maj.(1.12.41), Otl.(1.1.45) (from MGB.5) Baur ?
First name of Maj.(1.2.40), Otl.(1.11.44) (from Rgt.118) Becker ?
First name and any assignements (from 9.44 on only !) of Otl.(1.3.42) (from OKW/Ausl.) Becker ?
There is another OTL.(1.3.42) Becker,but from PGR.103.Maybe same one as above ? If not, 1st name + assignements 44-45 only ?
Thanks + Rgds., Rossano

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Re: missing first names of Colonels with RDA-dates

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Post by Heimatschuss » 18 Jun 2014, 00:22

Buonasera,
Rossano wrote: First name and any assignements (from end 44 on only !) of Maj.(1.3.41), Otl.(1.9.44) (from Rgt.82) Bantje ? Maybe Karl-Heinz ?
in Oct 1943 there was a Major Ludwig Bantje serving as instructor in Schule V für Fahnenjunker der Infanterie in Posen. http://www.dokumentenforum.de/thread.ph ... ee73375792
Ludwig Bantje was a former Landespolizei officer.

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Re: missing first names of Colonels with RDA-dates

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Post by Rossano » 18 Jun 2014, 12:29

Thanks Torsten (no more ?)
Pls. reply to my email too
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Re: missing first names of Colonels with RDA-dates

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Post by Rossano » 18 Jun 2014, 14:12

Hello
With regard to Gerd-Jürgen von Bonin, I have 11.44-1.45 an Ob. v. Bonin (without first name) as Rgts.Kdr. in the 155.FAD (Feldausb.Div.). Maybe Gerd-Jürgen here too ?
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Re: missing first names of Colonels with RDA-dates

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Post by Dave Danner » 18 Jun 2014, 23:30

There was no personnel file for Gerd-Jürgen von Bonin in the archives. I suppose if Torsten is correct on his ID, his file may have been sent to the OKL.
First name and any assignements for Otl. 1.3.42(107) (from A.L. Zwickau) Adolph ?
Adolph, Paul Leonhard, *15.4.1892 in Freiberg i.Sa.
26.8.39-8.1.40 Adj. IR 414
9.1.40-25.3.40 infolge Krankheit z. Inf.Ers.Btl. 414
26.3.40-10.4.40 Stab, Feld-Rekr.Btl. IR 394
11.4.40-24.8.40 Kdr. I./IR 414
17.9.40 Wehrmachtkommandant v. Kutno
6.3.45 Fhr.Res. WKr.X
First name and any assignements (5.43-5.45 only !) of Otl.(1.3.42) (from Rgt.74) Ballerstedt ? Was he 45 Kdt. Stalag XI A ?
Ballerstedt, Kurt Emil Sigismund, *22.6.1894 in Uetz

25.5.43-15.11.43 Fhr.Res. OKH, ab 17.6.43 kdrt. z. Stalag XI A
16.11.43 z. stellv. Kdt. d. Stalag XI A ernannt
First name and any assignements (from 9.44 on only !) of Otl.(1.3.42) (from OKW/Ausl.) Becker ?
There is another OTL.(1.3.42) Becker,but from PGR.103.Maybe same one as above ? If not, 1st name + assignements 44-45 only ?
Becker, Wolfgang, *11.4.1893

Fhr.Res. H.Gr. Nordukraine u. H.Gr. Mitte bis 13.1.45
14.1.45-25.1.45 kdt. z. Kampfkdt. Krakau (Erkund.Stab., Rgts.Fhr.)
26.1.45-23.2.45 Rgts.Fhr. eines Versprengten-Rgts.

These assignments are from an ausserterminliche Beurteilung from 359.ID dated 23.2.45

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Re: missing first names of Colonels with RDA-dates

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Post by Rossano » 19 Jun 2014, 08:28

Excellent, many thanks Dave !!!
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Re: missing first names of Colonels with RDA-dates

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 19 Jun 2014, 10:03

May I ask for one guy too:

Oberst Dipl. Ing. Nieschlag, last peace time unit: Kdr. I. Btl./I. R. 103, Maj. 01.01.1936 (14)

Any taker?

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Re: missing first names of Colonels with RDA-dates

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Post by Dave Danner » 19 Jun 2014, 22:16

Stauffenberg II wrote:May I ask for one guy too:

Oberst Dipl. Ing. Nieschlag, last peace time unit: Kdr. I. Btl./I. R. 103, Maj. 01.01.1936 (14)

Any taker?

Thanks
Jürgen
Hi Jürgen,

I haven't reviewed the roll he would be on, but I would suspect that this is Konrad Nieschlag, born in Hermsdorf bei Berlin. He was a Leutnant in 1.Hann. Inf.Rgt. Nr. 74 and remained in the Reichswehr in 16.IR and 16.RR (Oberleutnant 1.4.25 (290), Rittmeister 1.10.31 (13)).

He was a prisoner of the Soviets and wrote a book about it called "... und morgen gibt es wieder Brot". Funf Jahre in russischen Lagern.

mfG,
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Re: missing first names of Colonels with RDA-dates

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 19 Jun 2014, 22:39

Excellent Dave, thanks, I am much obliged.

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Re: missing first names of Colonels with RDA-dates

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Post by Rossano » 22 Jun 2014, 18:10

Hello Dave, Torsten, Hans (and others)
Can You help me with the following officers ?
First name+any assignements (from 7.44 on only) for Otl. 1.4.42 (from Rgt.3) Holsowski ?
Any assignements (from end 44 on only !) for Maj. 1.4.43, Otl. 1.9.44 (from Rgt.56) Huber Peter ?
Any assignements (from 10.44 on only !) for Otl. 1.2.44 (from GJR.137) Hütler Friedrich ?
Any assignements for Ob. 1.1.43 (from Rgt.10) Jahn Otto ? I only have him in 45 in Fest./Div. Frankfurt/O
First name of Otl.(1.7.42) (from Rgt.12) Jahns ?
Any assignements for Otl. 1.2.38 (from Rgt.127) Kabrda Rudolf ?
First name of Otl.(1.11.43) (from Rgt.3) Kallweit ?
First name of Otl.(1.12.43) (from Rgt.58) von der Kammer ?
Any assignements (from mid 40 on only) for Otl. 1.2.40 (from Rgt.134) Karress Wilhelm ?
First name of Maj.(1.3.41), Otl.(1.10.44) (from Rgt.130) Kasten ?
Many thanks + Rgds., Rossano

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Re: missing first names of Colonels with RDA-dates

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Post by Rossano » 26 Jun 2014, 11:47

Pls. (58)......Thanks

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Re: missing first names of Colonels with RDA-dates

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Post by Rossano » 30 Jun 2014, 14:25

No help for above ? Pls......
Herebelow some new ones, pls. help.....
Any assignements for Otl. 1.4.42 (from ObdH) Himburg Hans-Joachim ?
Any assignements for Otl. 1.4.42 (from WK. V) Hindennach Walter ? He was in W.K. V until 3.44, in which position ?
First name+any assignements(from end 41 on only !) for Otl. 1.6.43(28) (from Rgt.81) Höhn ?
Any assignements for Otl. 1.3.43 (from Rgt.41) Dr. Hojer Ernst ?
First name+any assignements for Otl. 1.2.42(28) (from Rgt.75) Höller ? From/to when Kdr. IEB.75 + I./IR.326 ? Then what ? Also, was he KIA in 1943 or 1944 ? In fact he is not listed any longer in DAL 44..
First name of Otl.(1.6.42) (from A.L. Lübeck) Kedor ?
First name+any assignements for Otl. 1.3.43(58) (from Rgt.96) Keller ?
First name+any assignements for Otl. 1.4.44(182 b) (from Rgt.56) Kilgus ? I´ ve him 1.45 only, attending a Rgt.Fü.Lehrg.
Any assignements (2.42-2.44 only !) for Otl. 1.4.42 (from A.L. Neustettin) Kletschke Karl ?
Hans has "Carl" for OTL.(1.4.42) Koch (from Stab IV.AK), but I´ve a Karteikarte with OTL. 1.4.42(259) (from Rgt.46) Koch (without first name) and from the assignements listed in the Karteikarte I found out (from my data bank) that his first name is "Hans-Joachim". So, my question : is Hans wrong (if same officer), or are they 2 different officers ?

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