SS-Standarte "Kurt Eggers" uniform (need help)

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SS-Standarte "Kurt Eggers" uniform (need help)

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Post by Xserx » 03 May 2003, 13:41

Need photos uniform SS-Standarte "Kurt Eggers". Second question: Whether there were any special marks (stripes etc.) at the soldier propaganda roten (PK) in Wehrmacht structure? If yes, there are no at you their images?

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Post by K.Kocjancic » 03 May 2003, 14:04

SS-war reporters had a special arm-band "SS-Kriegsbericheter" on their sleeve.


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Post by Xserx » 05 May 2003, 14:18

Thank's, Kocjo! May bee you have a photos this arm-band?

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Post by K.Kocjancic » 05 May 2003, 16:39

Here's one!
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Post by K.Kocjancic » 05 May 2003, 16:41

... and here's another one; this time from a Third Reich Factbook.

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Hope that this will help you,
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Post by Tony Barto » 05 May 2003, 19:47

Interesting that the trooper has a medal TK attached to his cap instead of the usual cloth one.

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Post by Marcus » 05 May 2003, 19:51

Kocjo wrote:Here's one!
If I recall correctly that is Arild Hamsun, son of Nobel Prize winner Knut Hamsun (I've also seen is mislabeled as Stalin's son Yakov).

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Post by K.Kocjancic » 05 May 2003, 19:56

Thanks Marcus! :D
I wanted to ask, how is he. I have another photo of one SS-KB, let me look a bit in my archive.

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Post by K.Kocjancic » 05 May 2003, 20:25

I'm sorry, but I can not post another photos of SS-KB.
You would ask me, why?

Because photo's resolution is 2824x3806 (pretty big photo :D )! That's way. :cry:

If you have any idea, how to minimalized the photo (I'll allready tried with Microsopht Photo Editer), please tell me!

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Post by Marcus » 05 May 2003, 20:40

Kocjo wrote:If you have any idea, how to minimalized the photo (I'll allready tried with Microsopht Photo Editer), please tell me!
It should be no problem to use that program to make the image smaller, any graphics program should be able to do that.

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Post by K.Kocjancic » 05 May 2003, 22:00

Yes, Marcus you are right. I finally figured it out, how to do it.

Here's one...
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Post by K.Kocjancic » 05 May 2003, 22:03

... and here is another photo of SS-KB II & Co.
BTW. Does anybody know him?

BTW 2. Both photos were taken in Slovenia (I think).

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Post by Paddy Keating » 06 May 2003, 11:45

The SS-Kriegsberichter cuff title was created in 1940 for members of the SS-Kriegsberichter-Kompanie, which was formed as part of the SS-Verfügungstruppe in January 1940 and saw service in the Western Campaign in May and June 1940 with the SS-VT. There also was a variation SS-Kriegsberichter-Kp cuff title, which is very rare. Mind you, the SS-Kriegsberichter cuff title is not exactly common!

With the establishment and expansion of the Waffen-SS, the SS war-correspondent unit was accordingly expanded to battalion strength (Abteilung) strength in August 1941 and was issued with the SS-KB-Abt cuff title. In December 1943, the SS-KB-Abt became a regiment and was given the honour title SS-Standarte "Kurt Eggers" in honour of the former editor of the SS newspaper Das Schwarze Korps, killed in action with the Wiking Division at Kharkov in August 1943. With the new status came the regimental cuff title Kurt Eggers.

By this time, the beginning of 1944, SS soldiers were forbidden to wear two cufftitles at once but in any case, whereas the SS-Kreigsberichter cuff titles were really just SS formation insignia, the Kurt Eggers cuff title was an honour title and members of the unit were naturally very proud of it so felt no need to wear anyone else's cufftitle.

Prior to this, SS-Kriegsberichter certainly wore two SS cuff titles together on occasion.

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This could happen when the SS war-reporter had the right to wear the cuff title of his parent unit or was accorded the right to wear the cuff title of the unit to which he was attached. The Kreigsberichter cuff titles were usually worn below regimental or divisional cuff titles. The practice was formally outlawed in August 1943.

In contrast, on the other hand, there are photographs taken after this date of NCOs of the Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler in Italy wearing their divisional cuff titles together with the SS-Feldgendarmerie cuff title when on provost duty. It may have been against regulations but there cannot have been many officers or senior NCOs who would have taken an SS military policeman, especially a member of the LAH, to task for a breach of uniform regulations.

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Post by K.Kocjancic » 06 May 2003, 15:19

Prior to this, SS-Kriegsberichter certainly wore two SS cuff titles together on occasion.
Any photos?

BTW. Great piece on "Kurt Eggers"!

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Post by Paddy Keating » 06 May 2003, 18:03

The SS-KB in the photo above is wearing two cuff titles. I think this image predates the ban on this practice. There is a famous photo of an NCO of the LSSAH directing traffic in Rome in 1944. He wears both the SS-KB and LAH cuff titles on his tropical tunic. Can anyone here post this image?

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