German radar equipment?

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German radar equipment?

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Post by Erik E » 14 May 2003, 23:58

Hello!

This strange device tured up in "Radarstellung Linde" 13.schw.Ln.Flugm. Leit Kp/ Ln.Rgt. 251

In the same area there were 2 Würzburg-riese and a Freya radar.
I suspect this item to have some sort of connection with these radars.......

I also made this fantastic drawing to show the arrangement.
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Post by Erik E » 15 May 2003, 00:00

Forgot to add that someone I spoke to, guessed that it was a mounting for a "hochgerät" ( to hear airplanes)

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Post by Korbius » 15 May 2003, 01:05

If that thing is a "hochgerat" would you by any chance have an actual image so it can be compared to?
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Post by Erik E » 15 May 2003, 01:13

Only a bad from WTS in Koblenz......
There were several different types of Horchgerät aswell.......

I`ll do some google searches and see what comes up.......

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Post by gabriel pagliarani » 15 May 2003, 10:20

Big ears (hochgerat) for me. Watch the depth of the tracking gear, 2 bell shaped acoustic devices had to be fixed upper both arms. But there are good chances it was a passive radio antenna tracker (metric wavelengh UHF) necessary for "triangolation" of the coming back bouncing waves previously emitted by Freya. It was necessary to determine ceiling and ground-speed of bandits. Also now called "telemetry".
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Post by Erik E » 15 May 2003, 17:23

Very interesting!

I am heading for this area next week too, so I will try to get some detail photos!

Thanks!
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Post by Robert Hurst » 16 May 2003, 12:17

Hi Erik E

At home I've a book with some photos of German Radar and also Acoustic detection devices such as the Hochgerat in it. If you would like me to post some photos onto the forum, I'm more than happy to oblige.

I'm unable to do this today, as I do not have use of a scanner until tomorrow morning.

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Post by Erik E » 16 May 2003, 18:07

If you would like me to post some photos onto the forum
Ofcourse Robert! That would be really great!
There are very few good photos of German radars online, so this would be really great!

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Post by Robert Hurst » 17 May 2003, 11:07

Hi Erik

Some photos of German RRH Sound Locating Devices.

These photos were taken from "Sound Locators, Fire Control Systems and Searchlights of the German Heavy Flak Units 1939-1945", by Werner Muller.

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Post by Robert Hurst » 17 May 2003, 11:10

Hi Erik

Some more photos from the same source as the first lot.

apologies for the blured text.

Regards

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Post by Ike_FI » 17 May 2003, 16:11

This is seriously off-topic, but thanks, guys, for solving a couple of decades old mystery. Now finally I know what the device on the second square is... :lol:

(from the comic book Tintin and the sceptreof King Ottokar)
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Post by Erich » 17 May 2003, 16:54

Erik :

I may be intirely wrong but could this item be and addition to a WW2 structure ? meaning was this added after the war ? I wonder if you will find a printed numbers on the steel structure ? The supporting arms look all wrong to me for one of a listening device as well as being quite exposed.......

just two cents

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Post by Erik E » 17 May 2003, 18:08

Thanks Robert. Nice photos!
But difficult to see the mountings.......


Erich:

The area was closed down after the war, however, the Norwegians used a coastal battery 1 Km south, so it could be related to that......?

I will take a closer look at it on Monday!


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Post by Erich » 17 May 2003, 22:31

Erik that is interesting, so maybe the unit is not of German origin ?

will be most interested in your findings soon......have fun ! 8)

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Post by Erik E » 13 Dec 2004, 00:47

Finally found the answer for it!!!

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seems like it was used in the 50-60`s for testfireing of rockets!

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