Looking for detailed bios/pics

[USAF1986]

Here's the list I've been able to find of "double" German Cross holders from the Scheibert books...any others?

Regards,
Shawn

SS-Gruppenführer und Generalleutnant der Polizei Odilo Lotario Globocnik
• German Cross in Gold: 7 February 1945, SS-Gruppenführer und Generalleutnant der Polizei, Higher SS and Police Leader “Adriatisches Küstenland.”
• German Cross in Silver: 20 January 1945, SS-Gruppenführer und Generalleutnant der Polizei, Higher SS and Police Leader “Adriatisches Küstenland.”

Sonderführer (Kapitänleutnant) Otto Krüger
• German Cross in Gold: 7 November 1944, Sonderführer (Kapitänleutnant), Chief of Net Barrier Flotilla South.
• German Cross in Silver: 26 October 1944, Sonderführer (Kapitänleutnant), Chief of Net Barrier Flotilla (South?).

Konteradmiral z.V. Dr. jur. Paul Meixner
• German Cross in Gold: 11 February 1943, Sonderführer (Kapitän zur See), Chief of the German Naval Command North Africa.
• German Cross in Silver: 6 June 1942, Korvettenkapitän z.V., Chief of the German Sea Transport Center North Africa.

SS-Standartenführer Walther Hermann Julius Rauff
• German Cross in Gold: 7 February 1945, SS-Standartenführer, Commander of Security Police Group “Oberitalien-West” under the Commander of the Security Police and the Security Services Italy.
• German Cross in Silver: 20 May 1943, SS-Obersturmbannführer, Leader of the Security Services of the Army High Command Africa.

Generalleutnant z.V. Bodo Zimmermann
• German Cross in Gold: 25 September 1944, Oberst i.G. z.V., General Staff of Commander-in-Chief West.
• German Cross in Silver: 15 February 1943, Oberst i.G. z.V., Operations Officer (Ia), General Staff of Commander-in-Chief West.

[USAF1986]

And of course Konteradmiral (Ing.) Paul-Willy Zieb!

• German Cross in Gold: 28 September 1944, Konteradmiral (Ing.), Commander of the Naval Forces on the Lower Danube and Leader of Battle Group “Zieb.”
• German Cross in Silver: 18 May 1944, Konteradmiral (Ing.), Chief of the Black Sea Main Shipyard Staff.

Regards,
Shawn

P.S. Scheibert lists Zieb as receiving the DKiG for Chief of the Black Sea Main Shipyard Staff...I actually think it was awarded for the functions listed above.

[Stauffenberg II]

Hi Shawn!

According to Gareth´s bios there is one more:

Bucher Wolfgang, Gen. Maj.
DKS 15.02.1943
DKG 23.02.1944

There is no pic available because he received the DKG posthumously.

Hans site says there is another:
Lahousen von Erwin, Gen. Maj.
DKS 15.09.1943
DKG ?
See:
http://houterman.htmlplanet.com/bio/german/HeerL.htm

Regards,
Stauffenberg II

[Greyfinn]

Hello,
Polkovnik Sakharov wrote:

Btw what sort of cuff title is he wearing?

Blowed up this cuff, and....don't know
Here's pic

[Stauffenberg II]

Could be the "Reichsführung-SS" cufftitle!?

I can read R ... h ... f ... h ...

Regards

[USAF1986]

Thanks! Although I didn't find the DKiG for Generalmajor Erwin Edler von Vivremont Lahousen (full name listed as such in Wolf Keilig) listed in Scheibert, here's Bucher:

Generalmajor Wolfgang Bucher
• German Cross in Gold: 23 February 1944, Oberst, Commander of Grenadier Regiment 417.
• German Cross in Silver: 14 February 1943, Oberst i.G., Senior Quartermaster Army Group North.

Regards,
Shawn

[Stauffenberg II]

Thanks back! And sorry for being totally off topic at the moment, guys.

btw: Shawn. Unfortunately I don´t have the Scheibert books until now. Would you be so kind as to look for Gen. Maj. Otto von Kries. He already died in 1941. Can you confirm that he received the DKiG?

Would be great.

Thank you very much,
Stauffenberg II

[USAF1986]

Yes, we did get a bit off topic! Here you go!

Generalmajor Otto von Kries
German Cross in Gold: 15 January 1942, Oberst i.G., Chief of the General Staff of the I Army Corps.

Regards,
Shawn

[Stauffenberg II]

Thank you Shawn. Sorry for this uncommon request.

OK guys, let´s get back to topic. It´s your thread again.

Regards

[J.N. Houterman]

Regarding the German Cross in Gold for Erwin (von) Lahousen (Edler von Vivremont):

the "Nachauflage" (1992) of the book by Horst Scheibert DOES list Lahousen in a list of people who have "credibly proven" (glaubhaft nachgewiesen) to have been awarded the decoration.

Lahousen, Erwin von
Oberst
Inf.Rgt. 41
20.07.1944

So, Lahousen got the German Cross both in Gold & Silver.

Cheers,

Hans

[Stauffenberg II]

Thanks for the info Hans!

What´s a Nachauflage. Is this a 2nd Edition or is it an additional book to the original book? How many are included in these special list.

Thanks

[J.N. Houterman]

It's a second edition. The extra list includes some 50 names.

I've scanned them with Optical Character Recognition (OCR), so don't mind the lay-out and the occasional typing error:

Agtha Egon Hptm Luftgaukdo III 1945
Block van Eberhard Oblt. 3./Pz.Gren.Rgt. 9 24.4.1945
Claussen Joachim Major i.G. LXXVI.Pz.Korps 28.4.1945
Dürsch Wilhelm Hptm. 2./Pz.AR FGD .4.1945
Emmenthal Karl Oberst 32.lnf.Div. 7.5.1945
Enders R. Oblt. Pz.Gren.Rgt. 1
Fink Karl-Heinz Oblt. Pz.Gren.Rgt. 113
Förderer Ofw. Pi.Btl.205 8.9.1944
Foltin Friedrich Uffz. 320. Inf.Div. 17.4.1945
Forbeck Rudolf Owm. He.Stu.G.Brig.236 20.4.1945
Giebler O. Ofw. Pz.Rgt.1
Glöser Otto Oblt I./Pz.Gren.Rgt.33 25.3.1945
Haake Heinrich Major d.Res. I./Pz.AR FGD .4.1945
Hardt Anton Oblt. II./Gren.Rgt.502 20.4.1945
Hermani August Obstlt.i.G. Op.Abt.Heer 3.5.1945
Heygendorff von Gen.Major OKH 1945
Hutter Oblt. Pz.Rgt.1 1945
Inkmann August Uffz. Inf.Rgt.199 6.2.1945
Jagemann Karl Ofw. Pz.Rgt.
Jahn Hptm.d.Res. Art.Rgt.16
Job Eduard Uffz. 3/Pz.Jg.Lehr-Abt.1-30 1.3.1945
Kallfelz Karl-Heinz Oblt. 2./Pz.Abt.508 1.5.1945
Kempf Karl 1.12.1944
Kiener Josef Lt. Jg.Rgt.28 21.7.1944
Kleinert Oblt. Pz.Gren.Rgt.1 1945
Knoop Major 1./Gren.Rgt.377 26.7.1945
Knüpling Ludwig Major He.Stu.Art.Brig.667 4.5.1945
Lahousen van Erwin Oberst Inf.Rgt.41 20.7.1944
Mack Fw. Pz.Rgt.1 1945
Menedetter Kurt Hptm 4/AR 17 22.3.1945
Meng S. Uffz. Pz.Gren.Rgt.1
Mors Heinz Hptm. 3./Pz.AR FGD 4.1945
Neuer Walther Obstlt. Pz.Rgt.118 29.4.1945
Petersen Willy Oblt. 3./Pz.Abt.44
Pfeil Karl Oberst Art.Rgt.290 20.4.1945
Platen von J. Lt. Pz.Gren.Rgt. 1
Rader Alois Hptm. Inf.Rgt.199 5.2.1945
Ried Franz Oblt. Inf.Rgt.61 4.1945
Rinke A. Ofw. Pz.Gren.Rgt.1
Seebach Frh.von Oblt. Pz.Gren.Rgt.1 1945
Seemann Lt.d.Res. Pz.Rgt.203 1942
Schäfer G. Ofw. Pz.Rgt.1
Schneller Albert Ob It. Inf.Rgt.61 4.1945
Schwamberger Otto Major 2.Geb.Div. 3.5.1945
Schwarz Oblt. Pz.Gren.Rgt.113 1945
Ströder Klaus Hptm Kdo.d.Pz.-Lehrg. 12.3.1945
Sunkel Kurt Major 1./lnf.Rgt.107 20.4.1945
Varnholt Otto Oblt. 1./Pz.Pi.Btl.675 11.4.1945
Weimar Hptm. Pz.Art.Rgt.73 1945
Wietersheim von W. Obstlt. Pz.Gren.Rgt.113

Cheers,

Hans

[Stauffenberg II]

OCR, damn, you are equipped.

Thank you for that list.

[Michi]

A correction on
Konteradmiral (Ing.) Paul Willy Zieb


Thanks to Denise, who put the picture online!

Born: 03 June 1892, Ruhland-Hoyerswerda/Schlesien (was this Austro-Hungaria??)
Died: 09 August 1972, Koblenz


Promotions:

• Marineingenieuranwärter [Navy Engineer Candidate]: 01 October 1912
• Marineingenieuroberanwärter [Navy Engineer Senior Candidate]: 01 April 1913
• Marineingenieurapplikant [Navy Engineer Applicant]: 01 October 1913
• Marineingenieuroberapplikant [Navy Engineer Senior Applicant]: 01 April 1915
• Marineingenieuraspirant [Navy Engineer Aspirant]: 26 September 1916 (RDA 01 September 1916)
• Marineingenieuroberaspirant [Navy Engineer Senior Aspirant]: 01 July 1918
• Leutnant (Ing.): 16 December 1919
• Oberleutnant (Ing.): 21 July 1921 (Date of rank sequence reserved)
• Oberleutnant (Ing.): 12 January 1921 (RDA 21 July 1921; later established at 01 July 1921)
• Kapitänleutnant (Ing.): 01 April 1925
• Korvettenkapitän (Ing.): 01 October 1932
• Fregattenkapitän (Ing.): 01 October 1936
• Kapitän zur See (Ing.): 01 April 1938
• Konteradmiral (Ing.): 01 April 1942


Decorations & Awards:

• Prussian Iron Cross, 2nd Class (1914) with 1939 Bar
• Prussian Iron Cross, 1st Class (1914) with 1939 Bar
• Imperial German Navy U-Boat Badge – World War I award
• Cross of Honor for Combatants 1914-1918
• Armed Forces Long Service Award, 3rd Class (12-year Service Medal)
• Armed Forces Long Service Award, 1st Class (25-year Service Cross)
• War Merit Cross, 2nd Class with Swords
• War Merit Cross, 1st Class with Swords
• German Cross in Silver: 18 May 1944, Konteradmiral (Ing.), Chief of the Black Sea Main Shipyard Staff.
• German Cross in Gold: 28 September 1944, Konteradmiral (Ing.), Chief of the Black Sea Main Shipyard Staff.



Commands & Assignments:

• 01 October 1912:
Entered the Imperial German Navy as a Navy Engineer Candidate.
• 01 October 1912 - 02 January 1913:
Initial training in the II. Werft [Shipyard]-Division.
• 03 January 1913 - 15 September 1913:
Assigned to the Pre-dreadnought battleship Schleswig-Holstein.
• 16 September 1913 - 30 September 1913:
Assigned to the II. Werft-Division.
• 01 October 1913 - 30 September 1915:
Assigned to the light cruiser Stralsund.
• 02 October 1915 - 25 September 1916:
Engineer and Deck Officer School.
• 01 October 1916 - 28 October 1917:
Assigned to the torpedo boat B 104 in the 4th Torpedo Boat Half Flotilla.
• 29 October 1917 - 02 April 1918:
Naval School.
• 16 April 1918 - 14 June 1918:
At the disposal of the VIII. U-Boat Flotilla.
• 15 June 1918 - 19 November 1918:
Leading Engineer of the submarine UB 118.
• 20 November 1918 - 31 December 1918:
At the disposal of the III. U-Boat Flotilla.
• 01 January 1919 - 23 January 1919:
Assigned to the I. Abteilung of the I. Werft Division.
• 24 January 1919 - 24 February 1919:
Engineer and Deck Officer School.
• 25 February 1919 - 31 May 1919:
Freikorps service in the I. Marine-Brigade. [Formed from loyal naval personnel in Kiel by order of Gustav Noske, the Defense Minister of the Provisional German Government, the brigade played a leading role in suppressing Communist uprisings in Berlin and northern Germany. Initially known as the “Iron Brigade,” the unit was later renamed I. Marine Brigade. This was one of the first Freikorps units ever formed.]
• 01 June 1919 - 25 September 1919:
Freikorps service in the III. Marine-Brigade von Loewenfeld. [Commanded by Korvettenkapitän (later Fregattenkapitän) Wilhelm Friedrich (geb. Wilfried) von Loewenfeld, the III. Marine-Brigade took part in defeating Communist uprisings and maintaining law and order throughout Germany in the aftermath of World War I.]
• 26 September 1919 - 20 March 1920:
Student at Naval School “B.”
• 21 March 1920 - 30 June 1920:
Freikorps service as a Company Leader in the III. Marine-Brigade von Loewenfeld.
• 01 July 1920 - 21 July 1920:
Assigned to the Baltic Sea Ship Cadre Detachment and then the Baltic Sea Ship Cadre Division.
• 22 July 1920 - 03 January 1921:
Student at the Naval School Kiel-Wik.
• 04 January 1921 - 31 January 1922:
Ordnance Officer of Coast Defense Battalion I.
• 01 February 1922 - 31 March 1924:
Ordnance Officer of the 2nd Torpedo Boat Half Flotilla.
• 01 February 1922 - 28 February 1923:
Leading Engineer of the torpedo boat T 144.
• 01 March 1923 - 11 October 1923:
Leading Engineer of the torpedo boat T 141.
• 12 October 1923 - 31 March 1924:
Leading Engineer of the torpedo boat T 144.
• 01 April 1924 - 14 September 1924:
Company Officer in Coast Defense Battalion III.
• 15 September 1924 - 30 September 1924:
Diving Course, I. Abteilung of the of the Baltic Sea Ship Cadre Division.
• 01 October 1924 - 05 October 1927:
Leader of the Motor Transport Section of Coast Defense Battalion III.
• 06 October 1927 - 26 September 1928:
Motor Transport Consultant on the staff of the Baltic Sea Naval Station.
• 27 September 1928 - 28 February 1930:
Half Flotilla Engineer of the 1st Torpedo Boat Half Flotilla.
• 01 March 1930 - 03 April 1932:
Assistant Consultant in the Navy Command.
• 04 April 1932 - 06 October 1934:
Leading Engineer of the light cruiser Köln.
• 07 October 1934 - 31 March 1935:
At the disposal of the Chief of the North Sea Naval Station.
• 01 April 1935 - 06 October 1936:
Commander of the Naval School Wesermünde.
• 07 October 1936 - 28 October 1938:
Formation Engineer on the staff of the Commander of the Reconnaissance Forces.
• 31 October 1938 - 17 August 1939:
Engineer Inspector in the Inspectorate of Navy Education Services.
• 18 August 1939 - 01 November 1939:
Engineer Officer on the staff of Naval Group Command East.
• 02 November 1939 - 18 November 1939:
At the disposal of the Wilhelmshaven Kriegsmarine Shipyard.
• 19 November 1939 - 28 August 1940:
Director of the Equipment Department on the staff of the Wilhelmshaven Kriegsmarine Shipyard.
• 01 April 1940 - 19 January 1943:
Director of the Supply Department on the staff of the Wilhelmshaven Kriegsmarine Shipyard.
• 28 August 1940 - 16 December 1940:
At the same time, detached to the staff of the Commanding Admiral France.
• 01 May 1941 - 10 October 1941:
At the same time, detached to the staff of the Commanding Admiral France.
• 11 October 1941 - 15 November 1942:
At the same time, Engineer Officer on the staff of the Commanding Admiral France.
• 16 November 1942 - 19 January 1943:
At the same time, Engineer Officer on the Senior Quartermaster Staff of Naval Group Command West.
• 03 February 1943 - 25 August 1944:
Chief of the Black Sea Main Shipyard Staff.
• 25 August 1944 - 07 September 1944:
Commander of the Naval Forces on the Lower Danube.
• 25 August 1944 - 23 October 1944:
At the same time, Leader of Battle Group “Zieb.”
• 23 October 1944 - 08 May 1945:
Senior Shipyard Director of the Wilhelmshaven Kriegsmarine Shipyard.
• 09 May 1945 - 17 March 1947:
Handler of the Wilhelmshaven Kriegsmarine Shipyard.
• 29 May 1947:
Released from captivity as a prisoner of war.

There is a small correction to do:

Zieb received the GCiS on 18th May 1944 as Konteradmiral (Ing.) in the position as Chief of the Black Sea Main Shipyard Staff.
THAT IS CORRECT.

Zieb received the GCiG on 28th September 1944 as Konteradmiral (Ing.) in the position as Chief of the Black Sea Main Shipyard Staff.
THAT IS WRONG!!!!
We can see also the "problem" on Zieb's German Crosses.

In general engeneering/supply .... officers (from the so-called "Etappe") received the German Cross in Silver (GCiS).
Front-line officers got the German Cross in Gold (GCiG).

But in this case the German Navy couldn't handle in an other way.

For the German nit-picking bureaucracy, it was simply impossible that KAdm ZIEB received his GCiG on 28th September 1944 as Chief of the Black Sea Main Shipyard Staff, because this is not a front line command/assignment.

Konteradmiral (Ing.) Paul Willy Zieb received the GCiG being Commander of the Naval Forces on the Lower Danube
or Leader of Battle Group „Zieb”

So USAF 1986 has it correct, too!!!

MfG Michi

[Denis]

Hello
The pic posted by Gareth on the first page and showing a KM officer is Paul Meixner
BEst regards
Denis