Italian Cavalry Pictures??
Italian Cavalry Pictures??
Hello,
Any posibility of photo's of these troops, preferably with their sabres or without.
Just trying to clarify what type of sabre was being used by them.
Thanks to any responses
Any posibility of photo's of these troops, preferably with their sabres or without.
Just trying to clarify what type of sabre was being used by them.
Thanks to any responses
- K.Kocjancic
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Some pics of Italian cavalry on the Eastern Front.I wish they were bigger in size.
http://digilander.libero.it/avantisavoi ... evskij.jpg
http://digilander.libero.it/avantisavoi ... nkji_1.JPG
http://www.elsitmilanes.it/image_armir/tragedia.gif
http://digilander.libero.it/avantisavoi ... evskij.jpg
http://digilander.libero.it/avantisavoi ... nkji_1.JPG
http://www.elsitmilanes.it/image_armir/tragedia.gif
- Baron Trenck
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Napoli, the foto you have is the mod. 1871 (?) sabre not sure about the final year, let's say 187something
It was, as far as I recall, the officer's sabre for all officers, also in the other branches of the army (exccept Bersaglieri who have a special curved sabre traditionally "earned" during the Crimean war). The example shown is brunished as prescribed for lessen visibility just after Italy declared war on Austria thus entering WWI.
I understand that this sabre is also the standard cavalry sabre.
As an aside, I've read that many Savoia horsemen at Isbuschenskij/Tchebotaresky used war prey cossak guardless swords, much heavier than the Italian sabre, which were able to open an helmet in two halfs like a coccoa-nut.
Regards
It was, as far as I recall, the officer's sabre for all officers, also in the other branches of the army (exccept Bersaglieri who have a special curved sabre traditionally "earned" during the Crimean war). The example shown is brunished as prescribed for lessen visibility just after Italy declared war on Austria thus entering WWI.
I understand that this sabre is also the standard cavalry sabre.
As an aside, I've read that many Savoia horsemen at Isbuschenskij/Tchebotaresky used war prey cossak guardless swords, much heavier than the Italian sabre, which were able to open an helmet in two halfs like a coccoa-nut.
Regards
Thankyou guys,
Interesting to see an old topic like this found again!!
I've had to come in under another name due to problems, but aside from that I do have a sword as pictured by myself in my own possesion now in its original nickel finnish and it actually looks so thin and flexible that it is almost only a display side arm, if used I'd find it hard to believe it could crack a tomato in half!!
Yes, the model is around 1871.
Though looking closely at one of the small paintings displayed above, a sabre can be seen of a much heavier type as you describe on its saddle, but has a gaurd around handle, it looks much like any other sword used by countries such as Germany etc.
But at the same time I would also believe the gaurdless type sabre would have been used as I have also seen these used by the Russian during WWII.
Thankyou for bring up an interesting topic guys
Interesting to see an old topic like this found again!!
I've had to come in under another name due to problems, but aside from that I do have a sword as pictured by myself in my own possesion now in its original nickel finnish and it actually looks so thin and flexible that it is almost only a display side arm, if used I'd find it hard to believe it could crack a tomato in half!!
Yes, the model is around 1871.
Though looking closely at one of the small paintings displayed above, a sabre can be seen of a much heavier type as you describe on its saddle, but has a gaurd around handle, it looks much like any other sword used by countries such as Germany etc.
But at the same time I would also believe the gaurdless type sabre would have been used as I have also seen these used by the Russian during WWII.
Thankyou for bring up an interesting topic guys
Hi Napoli,
I don't own one 1871 mod. sabre myself but had the oppportunity to hold one in my hands some times and i too wondered how light it was, OTOH i never held other sabres in hand so I cannot compare.
I think if you own a post WWII made sabre it will be more likely for display only. Consider also that the blade should not be used laterally
Anyway it is easier to brek in two peaces before being gloriously shot at.
A feature which might be unique (at least I've been told so and haven't found in my very limited knowledge in no other sabres) is the recess in the guard to accomodate the thumb for better hold and balance, I found it most ergonomic.
Regards
I don't own one 1871 mod. sabre myself but had the oppportunity to hold one in my hands some times and i too wondered how light it was, OTOH i never held other sabres in hand so I cannot compare.
I think if you own a post WWII made sabre it will be more likely for display only. Consider also that the blade should not be used laterally
Anyway it is easier to brek in two peaces before being gloriously shot at.
A feature which might be unique (at least I've been told so and haven't found in my very limited knowledge in no other sabres) is the recess in the guard to accomodate the thumb for better hold and balance, I found it most ergonomic.
Regards
Luigi,
I also have German WWI Light (quite heavy actually to be honest) cavalry sabre of 1916 manufacture (1870's design?) which was a standard piece of theirs and much, much heavier.
To compare both, the Italian model is a piece that could calve up and slash in the blink of an eye and deadly accurate, the German, or common type sabre is the type of piece that if it was to collect something in its path especially during a charge, it would quite easily break bones or inflict one wound that would lead to death.
I believe they obtained the term "wrist breaker" due to that...............or because my own wrist becomes quite sore after using it around the house
Ciao fella's
I also have German WWI Light (quite heavy actually to be honest) cavalry sabre of 1916 manufacture (1870's design?) which was a standard piece of theirs and much, much heavier.
To compare both, the Italian model is a piece that could calve up and slash in the blink of an eye and deadly accurate, the German, or common type sabre is the type of piece that if it was to collect something in its path especially during a charge, it would quite easily break bones or inflict one wound that would lead to death.
I believe they obtained the term "wrist breaker" due to that...............or because my own wrist becomes quite sore after using it around the house
Ciao fella's