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Slovenian war of Independence 1991

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Slovenian war of Independence 1991

Postby K.Kocjancic on 24 Jul 2003 17:55

I don't know, how good you know what happend in Slovenia during it's independence war in 1991.

I'll post some facts about it and if there is any interest I'll post some more. :D

The war started on 27.6.1991, when JLA (Jugoslovanska ljudska armada - Yugoslav People's Army YPA) lounched attacks against TORS (Teritorialna obramba Republike Slovenije - Territorial Defence of Republick of Slovenia) and Slovenian Police (Milicija at that time). The primaraly goal was to secure boarder passes to Austria, Hungary and Italy. But the first shots were fired already a day before, on 26.6. at 14.30 at Divača. The fights stoped on 7.7.1991; because of this is this war known as Ten-Days war.

At begining of war TO had (on 26.6.1991) 15.707:
- 85 groups for interference,
- 92 groups for AT fight,
- 59 Detachments,
- 240 platoons,
- 150 Companies,
- 60 Detachments (like Abteilung) - Odred in Slovene.
Weapons:
- 39.000 pieces of Inf.weapons,
- 17.000.000 pieces of ammo for Inf. weapons,
- 1100 pieces of AT weapons with 2750 pieces of ammo for them,
- 200 support weapons,
- 100 AA rockets
- no armor, no aircrafts (planes or helicopters)

JLA had at that time 15.000 - 20.000 soldiers and CO, but in combat they used:
- 3 Armor-Btl. with 31 M-84 tanks, 10 AFV and 250 soldiers,
- 4 Armor Btl. with 31 T-55 tanks, 12 APC and 300 soldiers,
- 1 Mehanized Btl. (like Pz.Gren.) with 31 AFV and 450 soldiers,
- 1 Motorized Btl. with 700 soldiers,
- 1 Mountain Btl. with 600 soldiers,
- 1 mixed AT division (Divizion - a unit formed from 3-4 Bat.) with 24 Armored vehicles and 200 soldiers
- 1 fighter/bomb. Escadron with 12-15 planes (MIG-21, Galeb and Orel)
- 1 Hel. Escadron with 18-20 Helicopters


JLA claimed that TO had captured:
- 6.787 pieces of Inf. weapons,
- 87 Art. pieces,
- 124 AA pieces,
- 8 AFC,
- 31 tanks,
- 1 Ing. vehicle,
- 133 non-combat vehicles,
- 753 radios,
- 6.787 pieces for Anti nuclear/bio warfare,
- 144 dogs
- + equipment, food,...

If there is any interest, I'll post some more info.
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Postby gabriel pagliarani on 24 Jul 2003 23:39

I was blocked at Fernetti Pass. I never realized there was a war till I was obliged to turn back towards Trieste: just off the main road Italian army silently placed a lot of camouflaged PAKs units. Helycopters and planes were low-flying as much quickly as much they could in any direction, tanks were hidden just out small towns. I understood there was a war only when I heard the sound of cannons and high columns of smoke climbing high just looking towards Yugo border, ambulances were running in any direction. Un gran casino.
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Postby Korbius on 25 Jul 2003 01:19

Slovenes must be considered the luckiest from all the republics (along with Macedonia) that broke off since the war against Slovenia lasted less than 2 weeks compared to the more than a year bloody wars in Croatia and Bosnia.
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Postby K.Kocjancic on 25 Jul 2003 07:59

Korbius wrote:Slovenes must be considered the luckiest from all the republics (along with Macedonia) that broke off since the war against Slovenia lasted less than 2 weeks compared to the more than a year bloody wars in Croatia and Bosnia.


Ten days we were at war. The main difference between us and Croatia and BiH is that:
- here wasn't so large number of Serb folk; we don't have here their minority,
- TO had the initiative
- they used a system of blocades. They blocked JLA's barracks, so that they couldn't get out and developt their combat. If they broke through, another blocade, was built with help of Police, TO, civilist's, transportation services (bus's, trucks, ...).

In Croatia they didn't blocked the barracks, so that JLA could go out and used their weapons against Croats and their was actual front. Here in Slovenia were just baricades.
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Postby K.Kocjancic on 25 Jul 2003 09:10

Beginning of the War in Slovenia
On the roads appeared tanks of the Yugoslav army

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Burning tanks on the frontier crosspoint Rožna dolina at Nova Gorica
(Photo: archives CVZD)
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More photos are on:
http://www.zvvs.si/angleskav/Pages/War1991.htm
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Postby K.Kocjancic on 25 Jul 2003 09:15

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Postby Korbius on 25 Jul 2003 15:07

Kocjo, do you by any chance have any information on the Slovene casualties and Serb ones from this conflict?
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Postby K.Kocjancic on 25 Jul 2003 15:18

Korbius wrote:Kocjo, do you by any chance have any information on the Slovene casualties and Serb ones from this conflict?


Just working on-it! :lol:

10 min.!
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Postby K.Kocjancic on 25 Jul 2003 15:27

Po nepopolnem pregledu je imela JLA 44 mrtvih in 146 ranjenih, slovenska stran pa 19 mrtvih in 182 ranjenih. Ubitih je bilo 12 tujih državljanov. Ne vemo pa, koliko slovenskih vojakov je bilo ubitih ob poizkusu bega iz JLA. Ujetih je bilo 4693 pripadnikov JLA in 252 zveznih policistov. V vojnih dneh je bilo 72 večjih in manjših spopadov. Uničenih, poškodovanih ali zajetih je bilo 31 tankov, 22 oklepnih transporterjev, šest helikopterjev JLA ter po pregledu v JLA 6.787 kosov pehotnega, 87 kosov artilerijskega in 124 protiletalskega orožja.


http://www.zvvs.si/Strani/Vojna_konec.htm

For our non-Slovenian/Yugoslav members:
JLA had 44 KIA and 146 WIA (Wounded in action), Slovenia 19 KIA (TO + Police) and 182 WIA. Also there were 12 foreign citizents (sp) killed during the war (all by JLA).

4693 JLA soldiers and 252 federal police-officers were caught or they defected/deserted.
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Postby Korbius on 25 Jul 2003 15:32

Kocjo wrote:4693 JLA soldiers and 252 federal police-officers were caught or they defected/deserted.


Wow, that's a large number of captured and deserters if you ask me for such a short period of conflict. I guess they knew life would be better for them in Slovenia :lol:
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Postby K.Kocjancic on 25 Jul 2003 15:35

Yes, indeed.

But you must be aware, that most of this soldiers were Slovene, then Croats, some Albanian, Macedonians and even some Serbs.
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Postby Korbius on 25 Jul 2003 15:45

Kocjo wrote:But you must be aware, that most of this soldiers were Slovene, then Croats, some Albanian, Macedonians and even some Serbs.


Up to that point the Army was a Yugoslav one composed of soldiers from every region in it so it would be common sense that all those nationalities were present.
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Postby K.Kocjancic on 25 Jul 2003 15:48

If you want, I can post some figures, how Yugoslav JLA's officers corps was composed by nationality.
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Postby Korbius on 25 Jul 2003 15:57

Kocjo wrote:If you want, I can post some figures, how Yugoslav JLA's officers corps was composed by nationality.


Sure, that would be interesting, thanks again. :wink:
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Postby K.Kocjancic on 25 Jul 2003 17:35

Nationality .... % of population .... % of Ofic.Corps in 1945
Serbs .... 42,27 .... 50,97
Croats .... 29,69 .... 22,72
Slovenes .... 8,58 .... 9,71
Macedonians .... 5,01 .... 3,58
Montenegros (sp) .... 2 .... 9,20
Albanians .... - .... -
Muslims .... 11,45 .... 1,88
Others .... 1 .... 1,94


Nationality .... % of population .... % of Ofic.Corps 11/49 .... % of Ofic.Corps 11/53:
Serbs .... 41,5 .... 53,8 .... 57
Croats .... 24 .... 22,1 .... 20,3
Slovenes .... 8,9 .... 8,3 .... 7
Macedonians .... 5,1 .... 3,6 .... 3,6
Montenegros .... 2,7 .... 9,7 .... 10,8
Albanians .... 4,7 .... 0,1 .... 0,1
Muslims .... 5,1 .... 0,7 .... 0,3
Others .... 8 ....1,7 .... 0,9

I have bolded the figures.

Source:
Lovšin, A. Slovenci v JLA 1945-1991 (1. del) in Slovenska vojska, Letnik X/16, 20. sept. 2002
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