Fair or Unfair in Nuremberg Trial
Fair or Unfair in Nuremberg Trial
Hello for all,
I'd like to know what opinions the friends have about final sentences in The Nuremberg Trial.
IN YOUR OPINIONS AND POINTS OF VIEW WERE ALL THE SENTENCES FAIR? ANY INJUSTICE?
For example, sometimes I think that Gen. Alfred Jold didn't deserve a death sentence because he was always a military man out of crimes.
Roderick
I'd like to know what opinions the friends have about final sentences in The Nuremberg Trial.
IN YOUR OPINIONS AND POINTS OF VIEW WERE ALL THE SENTENCES FAIR? ANY INJUSTICE?
For example, sometimes I think that Gen. Alfred Jold didn't deserve a death sentence because he was always a military man out of crimes.
Roderick
I agree about Yodl and in most part I don't think any Military men should have hanged. On the other hand the polliticians that supported the regime should have with the exception of Hess. I Think Hess was harmless and after time served in the London tower should have recieved 10 years. Now on to Albert Speer.....his intelligence rang through in the court and he was the only Nazi to admit wrong doing and got 20 years. I think he should have hung....he was armaments minister after Fritz Todd's death and used thousands of slave labours in his factories, many of which died of hunger and fatigue, where others were killed by guards for lack of production....Speer new about this and did nothing, for this he was a killer and should have been last seen on the end of a rope.....the 20 year sentence he got was an insult to all the Russian prisoners that died at the hands of his men........just my opinion.
Nuremberg trials
Here's a bunch of threads about what people think of the sentences given at Nuremberg. You're definately not alone in thinking that someone got an unfair sentence:
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopi ... berg+trial
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopi ... berg+trial
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopi ... berg+trial
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopi ... berg+trial
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopi ... berg+trial
The one defendant who I think really got gyped was Rudolf Hess. The guy left the country in 1941 and spent the rest of the war in an English prison! He probably knew little about the scope of the "Final Solution" because he wasn't around to execute it. He deserved maybe 10 years in prison (20 max) because of his early work in the party. But he certainly didn't deserve to spend half his life in prison.
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopi ... berg+trial
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopi ... berg+trial
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopi ... berg+trial
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopi ... berg+trial
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopi ... berg+trial
The one defendant who I think really got gyped was Rudolf Hess. The guy left the country in 1941 and spent the rest of the war in an English prison! He probably knew little about the scope of the "Final Solution" because he wasn't around to execute it. He deserved maybe 10 years in prison (20 max) because of his early work in the party. But he certainly didn't deserve to spend half his life in prison.
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Hess wrote the Nuremberg Laws of 1935, basically outlawing settng ground rules for what the Jews could and could not do. These laws sent thousands of people to camps. Hess was no Thomas Jefferson !!! And neither was Jodl or Keitel -- as they ordered the deaths of many a downed airmen. They were lucky that all of them were not sentenced to death.
I think sometimes, that our collecting tends to get in the way of the facts --these were not nice people !!!!!
Mark Costa
I think sometimes, that our collecting tends to get in the way of the facts --these were not nice people !!!!!
Mark Costa
Well said, and a good point about us collectors letting the facts fade.Mark Costa wrote:Hess wrote the Nuremberg Laws of 1935, basically outlawing settng ground rules for what the Jews could and could not do. These laws sent thousands of people to camps. Hess was no Thomas Jefferson !!! And neither was Jodl or Keitel -- as they ordered the deaths of many a downed airmen. They were lucky that all of them were not sentenced to death.
I think sometimes, that our collecting tends to get in the way of the facts --these were not nice people !!!!!
Mark Costa
Dönitz also was punished to hard in my book. I believe that most of his sentence comes form the fact that he was the last head of state of Germany and that the allies needed to have that function on trial. Had he not been appointed Hitler's succesor as head of state he would not have gotten that term.
noone who were punished doesn't desreved it!
and people who said here that some others should be hanged, they should be hanged!
Wir fürchten Tod und Teufel nicht
Mit uns ist Gott im Bunde
and people who said here that some others should be hanged, they should be hanged!
Wir fürchten Tod und Teufel nicht
Mit uns ist Gott im Bunde
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Mark Costa
I never said that, I never said he did anything admirable at all. All I meant was that I didn't think he deserved life in prison for his crimes.Mark Costa wrote:Hess was no Thomas Jefferson !!!
Hess was a signatory to the Nürnburg laws, but did not "write them". And when the Jews were being deported to the concentration camps in ernest, Hess was in Britain. He was there before Wansee, gas chambers etc.
So if some people are agreed on Hess being imprisoned for signing a document that limited the rights of Jews in Germany, then perhaps every US president should have been imprisoned for enforcing the racist laws that limited the rights of blacks and Native American's in the States.
An appalling double standard.
Tony
So if some people are agreed on Hess being imprisoned for signing a document that limited the rights of Jews in Germany, then perhaps every US president should have been imprisoned for enforcing the racist laws that limited the rights of blacks and Native American's in the States.
An appalling double standard.
Tony
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In addition to the thread links thoughtfully posted by RACPISA, here are some of the threads discussing individual IMT defendants in this section of the forum:
Julius Streicher
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=27013
The crimes of Rudolf Hess
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=27191
Hess: His crimes and sentence
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=23861
IMT judgment against Joachim von Ribbentrop
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=25156
IMT testimony of Joachim von Ribbentrop
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=25259
IMT judgment against Albert Speer
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=25075
IMT testimony of Albert Speer
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=23861
IMT judgment against Karl Doenitz
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=25074
IMT testimony of Karl Doenitz
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=23948
IMT judgment against Erich Raeder
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=25073
IMT judgment on "Fritz" Sauckel
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=21528
Final statements of the Nuernberg defendants
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15464
and here are some on criminal programs and organizations:
The SS and war crimes
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15441
Defense of the SS
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15475
Judgment on the SS as a criminal organization
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15476
The Gestapo, the SD and war crimes
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15607
Defense of the SD
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15723
Defense of the Gestapo
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15675
IMT judgment on the criminality of the Gestapo and SD
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15732
The Nazi dictatorship
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15380
Nazi persecution of the Jews
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=16116
Nazi slave labor overview
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15224
Julius Streicher
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=27013
The crimes of Rudolf Hess
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=27191
Hess: His crimes and sentence
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=23861
IMT judgment against Joachim von Ribbentrop
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=25156
IMT testimony of Joachim von Ribbentrop
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=25259
IMT judgment against Albert Speer
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=25075
IMT testimony of Albert Speer
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=23861
IMT judgment against Karl Doenitz
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=25074
IMT testimony of Karl Doenitz
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=23948
IMT judgment against Erich Raeder
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=25073
IMT judgment on "Fritz" Sauckel
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=21528
Final statements of the Nuernberg defendants
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15464
and here are some on criminal programs and organizations:
The SS and war crimes
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15441
Defense of the SS
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15475
Judgment on the SS as a criminal organization
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15476
The Gestapo, the SD and war crimes
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15607
Defense of the SD
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15723
Defense of the Gestapo
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15675
IMT judgment on the criminality of the Gestapo and SD
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15732
The Nazi dictatorship
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15380
Nazi persecution of the Jews
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=16116
Nazi slave labor overview
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15224
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