Litzmannstadt
Litzmannstadt
I don't have much knowledge about Jewish surnames, but when the Germans formally annexed Lodz, Poland into the Third Reich, the city was renamed Litzmannstadt. How exactly did the name of Litzmannstadt came about? To me, 'Litzmann' sounds quite Jewish...
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Re: Litzmannstadt
[, 'Litzmann' sounds quite Jewish....
Here are some more "Jewish" names in the Third reich:
Beck, Rozenberg, and those are only the few famous ones i can recall in a second.
The reason is that those "Jewish" names were given to Jews that were living in Germany, or German oriented teritories, when they got their names...
Many were called after the place they lived so you may find many: Berliner, Breslauer' Frrankfurter, Hamburger' and also: Wasrshavsky, Krakovsky and Danzinger.
Here are some more "Jewish" names in the Third reich:
Beck, Rozenberg, and those are only the few famous ones i can recall in a second.
The reason is that those "Jewish" names were given to Jews that were living in Germany, or German oriented teritories, when they got their names...
Many were called after the place they lived so you may find many: Berliner, Breslauer' Frrankfurter, Hamburger' and also: Wasrshavsky, Krakovsky and Danzinger.
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German-Jewish names usually have the suffixes of "-thal" (Roesenthal, Blumenthal, Metzenthal, etc); "-berg" (Goldberg, Landsberg, Brantberg, etc); "-stein" (Blumenstein, Goldstein, Finkelstein, Kronstein). These are at least the ones I remember. German Jewish surnames were in fact a mile between "pure-German" surnames and traditional Hebrew names (Cohen, Sharon, Levy). Russian and Polish Jews (or rather North Eastern European Jews in general) tend to share the same style of surnames as those of their adopted country. I also thought there were some deviations in German Jewish surnames even (eg: Lieberman; Liebermann, Aaronson, Aaronsen). But I can understand why the Germans would want to change Jewish-sounding names in occupied countries, as I'm sure happened in Germany before. It's like during the start of WW1 here in Australia, as part of anti-German sentiment, German place-names were changed, eg German Creek became Empire Bay, and Mueller Park became Kitchener Park.
and battenberg became mountbatten.USAF1986 wrote:Speaking of dropping unpopular German names, in 1917, King George V formally changed his family's house name to Windsor. It had been the House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.
i'm not anti-semitic, but i think many people(include me) follow their nose to judge "jewish names". if i seen a bauman, epstein, mayer, rosenbaum, davidson, stein, frank, goldman, hirsch, eisenberg, i would think he/she is a jewish people at first. but some names are not so easy to judge, as bird, gates, miller, phillips.
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You have included my surname in the above list and, believe me, my family and I are not Jews. However you are not the first person to assume I am Jewish because of my name. Personally I consider it an honor.Windward wrote:
i'm not anti-semitic, but i think many people(include me) follow their nose to judge "jewish names". if i seen a bauman, epstein, mayer, rosenbaum, davidson, stein, frank, goldman, hirsch, eisenberg, i would think he/she is a jewish people at first. but some names are not so easy to judge, as bird, gates, miller, phillips.
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However you are not the first person to assume I am Jewish because of my name. Personally I consider it an honor.
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Well these people are quite wrong. Your name will not sound "jewish" to people who are familiar with "jewish" names - it would be said about a Jew carring that name, that he has a "German" name.
I guess that in certain areas of the "new" world (usa, Australia ex.) there were far more Jewish immigrants than German ones - thats why such names were considered first "Jewish".
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Well these people are quite wrong. Your name will not sound "jewish" to people who are familiar with "jewish" names - it would be said about a Jew carring that name, that he has a "German" name.
I guess that in certain areas of the "new" world (usa, Australia ex.) there were far more Jewish immigrants than German ones - thats why such names were considered first "Jewish".
Oh trust me I'm not baleful. And forgive me for asking your family name, just for curious. Hirsch? Davidson? Frank?Zapfenstreich wrote: You have included my surname in the above list and, believe me, my family and I are not Jews. However you are not the first person to assume I am Jewish because of my name. Personally I consider it an honor.
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My surname is Bauman, originally Baumann. It is a German occupational name meaning "a builder" or "a man who builds". Literally "building man".Windward wrote:Oh trust me I'm not baleful. And forgive me for asking your family name, just for curious. Hirsch? Davidson? Frank?Zapfenstreich wrote: You have included my surname in the above list and, believe me, my family and I are not Jews. However you are not the first person to assume I am Jewish because of my name. Personally I consider it an honor.
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My ancestors up to my great grandfather were Master Stone Masons; all good German Lutherans.
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One of the businessmen of DEGESCH was named Theo Goldschmidt and was put on trial after the war. His surname certainly does sound Jewish due to the "Gold" in front of Schmidt. It just goes to show that it doesn't necessarily follow. In the same way, the surname 'Frank' can be either Jewish or Christian. Same with Rosenberg, yet I doubt Alfred Rosenberg was Jewish.
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