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Turret speed of KingTigers

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Turret speed of KingTigers

Postby LAH Pz Grenadiere on 25 Dec 2003 21:42

Was the KingTiger turet faster than the Tiger 1? How did it compare to the t-34?
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Postby Rommel8 on 25 Dec 2003 22:17

Tiger I was 60 seconds (see Panzer Aces by Franz Kurowski)

Tiger II I think was about 90 seconds, not sure though
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Postby Christian Ankerstjerne on 25 Dec 2003 22:23

Highest possible 360 degree turn was:

Tiger I: 60 seconds
Tiger II: nine seconds

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Postby LAH Pz Grenadiere on 25 Dec 2003 22:57

Nine? That is lighting fast compared to Tiger I!
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Postby hauptmannn on 26 Dec 2003 02:49

Yes between 5-6 times faster! Are you sure the figures are correct?
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Postby e.kerckhoff on 26 Dec 2003 15:06

That's got to be a typo. Even modern vehicles can't traverse that fast with hydraulic power!

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Postby Takao on 26 Dec 2003 15:56

I'm sure its a typo. All sources I have list the maximum turret speed for the Tiger II at 19 seconds for 360 degrees.

The Tiger II was fitted with an improved hydraulic motor than the one on the Tiger I. Also, I believe the Tiger II's turret was more balanced than the Tiger I's.
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Postby Christian Ankerstjerne on 26 Dec 2003 16:10

It's no typo. This is for maximum RPM, but still possible. Incidently, it is the same speed as the Leopard 2...

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Postby LAH Pz Grenadiere on 26 Dec 2003 18:42

How does this compare with the better armored American Abrams?
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Postby wotan on 27 Dec 2003 04:22

LAH Pz Grenadiere wrote:How does this compare with the better armored American Abrams?


Leopard 2A6 are no less armoured than M1A2's.. roughly the same weight and size. Dunno about the protection lvl on the M1HA as they have DU armour as well.

9 seconds.. are u sure about that? Seems awfully fast.
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Postby HC8604 on 27 Dec 2003 05:33

I assume thats why Christian put nine instead of 9 so people cant think it was a typo. How about the turret speeds of other WW2 tanks... where can i get info for that? It's a bit of topic
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Postby Rommel8 on 27 Dec 2003 06:52

http://www.wwiivehicles.com

afew of the profiles have the traverse speed
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Postby Tracer on 29 Dec 2003 09:59

Russian tanks.. the T-34 for example were handcranked.. correct?

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Postby hauptmannn on 29 Dec 2003 10:50

Were they really handcranked? Wouldn't that be very slow?
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Postby Christian Ankerstjerne on 29 Dec 2003 11:09

They did have an engine to help the traverse, hoever test in the US showed it was of a terrible quality, and would start making sparks and smoke when started.

The turret could be traverser by hand, but this was very slow...

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