5cm Festungsgranatwerfer 210(f)

[Erik E]

Hallo!

This sounds like an interesting weapon, but I can`t find any photos!!

The french name was "Mortier de 50 mle1935"

Erik

[daveh]

http://users.skynet.be/bs903065/mortiers.htm

shows this

[David Lehmann]

Hello Erik,

This mortar was the 50mm mortar used in the Maginot fortifications.
1600 of these mortars were present in the Maginot line, mostly in the "cloches GFM ('guet fusil mitrailleur')" with or without a FM 24/29 but also in several turrets or casemates. Unlike the infantry version, this fortress version is loaded by the breech.

length of the tube : 45cm
caliber : 50mm
weight : 11kg
range : 65 to 695m (firing angle of 20°) or 950m (firing angle of 45°)
RoF : 15-30 rpm
ammunition : 50mm FA modèle 1935 (950g, 95g NX explosive, fuze 21/28B modèle 1935).

Usually in the "cloches" the firing angle is 20° and in the other fortificaions it is 45°. There is a system allowing to use more or less propulsion gases to modify the range if the firing angle is unchangeable.

For closer defense there were the FM 24/29 often mounted on the doors of the fortifications and the "goulottes lance-grenades" (system allowing to throw defensive hand grenades to the exterior, in the barbed wire nests if there is an infiltration. The 7.5mm Reibel MAC31 MG twins and the 13.2mm Hotchkiss Mle1930 HMG were usually used to fire at the ennemy at longer range and less for self-defense.








Infantry version of a 50mm mortar :

[Erik E]

Thanks guys!

Very good answers as usual!

Erik

[jopaerya]

Hello

There seems to be 2 versions of lafette for the Fest.Gr.W. 210 (f) ,
who has any documention on these 2 type's of lafette's , I only
found this Gerät 950 S6 , as you can see on the last 2 pictures
The photo from Daved looks like the other lafette , could this be
French ???

Photo's = Michael Rausch , the books Festung Hoek van Holland
and Jersey German Bunkers

Regards Jos

[jopaerya]

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[jopaerya]

No One ????

[jopaerya]

Thanks to our member Herring , i recieved the number of the Gerät on the first 2 pictures
witch was build mainly in the Channel Islands . The number is Gerät 945 S6 .

Regards Jos

[Barovic]

Hello Jos,

nice to see you've found an answer. Thanks for sharing this.
Question: both types were developped for re-use of the French 50 mm Mortar Mle 1935 in the Atlantikwall? Or is one of them French, the other one German?

Regards,

Barovic

[jopaerya]

Hello Barovic

The weapon is French (50 mm Mortar Mle 1935) but both mountings are German made .

Regards Jos

[Barovic]

Hello,

Gerät 950 S6 seems rather less sofisticated then the 945, bit more robust. I've seen 950 used on Bauform 206.
Same goes for the Gerät 945 S6, on the Channel Islands? The picture from David shows it in some kind of Ringstand.

Regards,

Barovic

[zmija]

A 50 mm mortar model 35 in the museum of Hackenberg. Pic is from wwiitech.net (I think).

[jopaerya]

Hello All

Here some picture's of a 5 cm Granatwerfer found in France .

Photo's = Dirk Peeters

Regards Jos

[jopaerya]

Hello

Who has a better and sharper image from the first photo in this topic ??

Regards Jos

[M19 MADMAL]

Hi all,

Another photo of a Festungsgranatwerfer on Jersey
This time one of two at Wn. Bouley Hotel.

Regards,
Malcolm