Identification of RKTs at HG Corp HQ

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Identification of RKTs at HG Corp HQ

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Post by Elwyn W » 27 Jan 2004, 17:48

hello,

This is a typical Franz Kurowski pic -- rich in material but a little short on info or accuracy. Could someone identify the missing RTKs?

#1 von Necker
#2 Schmalz
#3 Wilhelm Soeth
#4 ?
#5 von Baer
#6 Rossmann
#7 Franz Schlund, LG1
#8 ?
#9 ?
#10 Rebholz
#11 ?

The caption confusingly has the following: Grün ( there are no Grün's listed as RKT ), Kluge, Ostermeier, Kulp. Kluge and Ostermeier are majors. Judging from the quality of the uniform, that means #4 and #11?

Does anyone have a good picture of Ostermeier, EL#834?

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Post by Denis » 27 Jan 2004, 19:04

Hi Freiherr
The image doesn't apppear. If it is what I think ( a group of RKT from the HG division), there is such a photo in the Biblio Verlag book dealing with RKT from Flak (See Rossmann entry). I will have a look at it this evening and I hope tomorrow, the pic will be available.
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Post by Dieter Zinke » 27 Jan 2004, 19:32

Hi Freiherr,

Oberstab helping you:
all from left, first row: von Necker, Schmalz, Söth;
middle row: from left Grün, von Baer, Rossmann;
upper row from left: Kluge, kulp, Rebholz, Ostermeier, Schlund.

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Post by Elwyn W » 28 Jan 2004, 02:13

Sorry but no idea why my picture didn't come out properly.

Oberstab, what you gave is same as Kurowski's. But here are Schlund and a post-war Rebholz fom http://www.das-ritterkreuz.de. Something doesn't add up. #11 doesn't really look like Rebholz.

There was a Uffz Werner Grünhold, but no Grün.


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Post by Dieter Zinke » 28 Jan 2004, 10:35

Compliment ! Dear Freiherr, excuse, but you are right! !
# 10 must be Rebholz, # 7 must be Schlund, # 11 is Ostermeier (KC 23.08.1944, 834. oakleaves 15.04.1945, German Cross in Gold 06.03.1945, Goldene Nahkampfspange der LUFTWAFFE 30.04.1945).
See a pic of Ostermeier.
The others in the upper row are uncertain for the moment.
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Post by badoglio » 28 Jan 2004, 14:44

this pic was taking of "hermann goering division " of roger jams bender publishing

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Post by Dieter Zinke » 28 Jan 2004, 15:39

badoglio wrote:this pic was taking of "hermann goering division " of roger jams bender publishing
No Sir,
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Post by Elwyn W » 28 Jan 2004, 16:38

Hi Denis and Oberstab,

Thank you for your input. Here is part of the picture Denis was talking about -- the 3rd person from the left after Schmalz and von Necker was Uffz Werner Grunhold. ( Makes sense he stood in the last row in the corner -- most junior in rank of the whole group ) There is some resemblance between Grunhold and #9 in the first pic I posted. Perhaps Kurowski meant Grunhold and not Grün. ( His whole caption was totally messed up ) That would leave #4 and #8 to be Major Kluge and Obfwb Kulp.

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final status

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Post by FlorianBerger » 06 Jul 2004, 18:45

Hi,

I know its a very old story, but I need the correct names of this great shot. Please help!

1 v. Neckar
2 Schmalz
3 Söth
4 Grün ?
5 v. Baer
6 Rossmann
7 Schlund
8 Kluge ?
9 Kulp ?
10 Rebholz
11 Ostermeier

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Post by Elwyn W » 11 Jul 2004, 16:47

Hi Flo,

My oversight. It was clearly stated in Franz Kurowski's book that Mj Werner Grün was awarded the RK with 21Pz prior to joining HG. Here's his pic. That leaves #8 and #9. Kulp was an ObFwb. Kluge was a Mj.

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Post by Elwyn W » 11 Jul 2004, 17:30

Mission accomplished. Just found Kluge in my "drawer". No9. So No8 is Kulp.

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Post by FlorianBerger » 11 Jul 2004, 20:42

thanks to Freiherr!

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Post by Dieter Zinke » 13 Jul 2004, 00:01

FlorianBerger wrote:Hi,

I know its a very old story, but I need the correct names of this great shot. Please help!

1 v. Neckar
2 Schmalz
3 Söth
4 Grün ?
5 v. Baer
6 Rossmann
7 Schlund
8 Kluge ?
9 Kulp ?
10 Rebholz
11 Ostermeier

regards,
Flo

Hallo Florian,

I think I can help. Out of
"Die Ritterkreuzträger der Deutschen Wehrmacht. Teil VI: Die Flugabwehrtruppen", Vol. 2: L - Z. Bibloi-verlag, Osnabrück 1991.
There is the complete identification

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