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Postby Sergey Romanov on 30 Oct 2004 15:32

I've found one document I requested:
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Postby steve248 on 03 Nov 2004 10:13

This document comes from the Auschwitz Museum Archive.

Another copy of this radio message was deciphered by British intelligence and is avilable in the "German Police Decrypts" at the Public Record Office, Kew/UK.

The Feldöfens mentioned are not for cooking but a method developed for burning corpses.
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Postby stcamp on 03 Nov 2004 12:34

Hello Steve,

An interesting document for a place that should be as well known to the world as Dachau is.
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Postby Sergey Romanov on 03 Nov 2004 20:32

Thanks for info, Steve! Was it published as a decode?
Meanwhile, I wonder how deniers explain "field ovens for Aktion Reinhard". If that was merely an economic (read: looting) operation, why would it need "ovens" (pyres)?
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Postby Sergey Romanov on 15 Nov 2004 08:34

Surely Michael Mills can explain the need for the field ovens for a purely economic operation.
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Postby Sergey Romanov on 16 Nov 2004 00:31

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Postby Topspeed on 16 Nov 2004 08:58

Sergey Romanov wrote:Surely Michael Mills can explain the need for the field ovens for a purely economic operation.


I haven't seen that Michael Mills has somehow denied holocaust..he just wants to clear facts. What is this collective attack against Michael Mills all about ?
Michael Mills has all along said that massive killings of jews did not start until 1942 after Wannsee conference..this only fortifies this assumption as far as I can see.

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Postby Sergey Romanov on 16 Nov 2004 09:15

I haven't seen that Michael Mills has somehow denied holocaust..he just wants to clear facts. What is this collective attack against Michael Mills all about ?

These comments pertain to this thread and my question in which way?

Michael Mills has all along said that massive killings of jews did not start until 1942 after Wannsee conference..this only fortifies this assumption as far as I can see.

Then you hardly know much about the Holocaust, and specifically about Blobel, SK1005 and efforts to erase the traces of crimes.
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Postby Sergey Romanov on 16 Nov 2004 09:39

To those readers who may not understand what it's all about, I will explain in a few words. Michael Mills denies that Aktion Reinard included the mass extermination of Jews. He says that it was a purely eceonomic operation. This is contrary to the known historical facts, and, iparticularly, to this document.

This document doesn't imply anything about the start of the killing operations.
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Postby Topspeed on 16 Nov 2004 11:09

Sergey Romanov wrote:Then you hardly know much about the Holocaust, and specifically about Blobel, SK1005 and efforts to erase the traces of crimes.


You are right Sergey. I do know nothing about SK1005 and I fail to see the relevance to Wannsee conference with that " erace the traces of crime ". Crime did happen and I have not seen Mills denying that.

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Postby Sergey Romanov on 16 Nov 2004 14:41

Crime did happen and I have not seen Mills denying that.

And, what's important, nobody implied otherwise.
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Postby Earldor on 17 Nov 2004 11:49

Topspeed wrote:Crime did happen and I have not seen Mills denying that.


You might want to ask mr. Mills how his views differ from those of David Irving, a man who was found to be a denier by the British courts.
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