Operation "Mince Meat"

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Vulkan
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Operation "Mince Meat"

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Post by Vulkan » 08 Nov 2004, 12:41

In 1943 a plan was designed by the British secret service to decieve Germans from where was the invasion of Southern Europe going to take place.
A copse from a drowned man was disguised as a Navy officer carrying fake documents bound for the allied headquarters in Northern Africa, indicating that the invasion was going to take place in Greece and that mock landings would be launched in Sicily to deceive the enemy.
This "drowned officer" was released from the submarine HMS Seraph near Huelva (Spain) and eventually made it to the coast where it was found by spanish authorities and, within hours, all the information it carried was in the hands of the local Abwehr.
This plan was a complete sucess. The germans took the bait fully. Hitler sent Rommel to Greece to build up the defences therein. There were almost no German troops in Sicilly when the invasion was launched and Hitler was still convinced that this was a diversion two weeks after.

Could anyone elaborate further on this british inteligence success??

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Post by WalterS » 08 Nov 2004, 15:58

I would recommend the book "The Man Who Never Was," by Ewen Montagu, the British Intelligence officer who directed the operation. It is short, readable and very informative.


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Post by Englander » 08 Nov 2004, 23:19

A copse from a drowned man was disguised as a Navy officer
That should be a Major in the Royal marines..
the coast where it was found by spanish authorities and, within hours, all the information it carried was in the hands of the local Abwehr.
As planned...The British new the Spanish government was willing to cooperate with the Germans.
and very informative.
Ewen Montagu took most of the secrets to his grave.....But, the body was identified a few years back.
This plan was a complete sucess
One in the eye for the Germans, you could say..

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Post by Montys Foxhounds » 27 Nov 2004, 23:32

Hi,

I can tell you that the "Man who never was" is buried in a Commonwealth War Grave Comisssion grave in Heluva, Spain. Under his fake name of Major Martin RM.

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Re: Operation "Mince Meat"

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Post by Michael Emrys » 15 Jan 2005, 23:39

Vulkan wrote:A copse from a drowned man...
AIUI, he actually died of pneumonia, the symptoms of which resemble drowning.
...carrying fake documents bound for the allied headquarters in Northern Africa, indicating that the invasion was going to take place in Greece and that mock landings would be launched in Sicily to deceive the enemy.
I don't recall that Sicily was mentioned at all in the documents he was carrying, although I might be mistaken on that point. I do recall that Sardinia was hinted at as a definite invasion target. The Germans took that bait too and sent additional troops to Sardinia, including a Panzer brigade.
There were almost no German troops in Sicilly when the invasion was launched...
The Hermann Göring Panzer Division was present in the invasion zones and gave the American landings a spot of trouble. I think there was about an additional division's worth of German troops on the island as well, but I don't recall off the top of my head what they were. There were lots of Italian troops on the island, but only a division or two were very good, the rest were more or less militia.
Could anyone elaborate further on this british inteligence success??
Hope this has helped.

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