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Michael Wittmann membership to SS and atrocities

Postby James Tainton on 10 Dec 2004 04:31

From another site

Maybe I'm out of line here, but I think it bears mentioning that Wittmann was not regular army; he was SS. He was a devout member of the Nazi Party who committed God knows how many atrocities while engaged in counter partisan operations in the Balkans and on the Eastern Front. My point is, wanting to accurately depict Wittmann's Tiger is perfectly fine; referring to a Nazi butcher as "a real hero" is not.


was he a butcher?
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Postby David Thompson on 10 Dec 2004 06:20

Intelligent and responsible people don't accuse individuals of having "committed God knows how many atrocities while engaged in counter partisan operations in the Balkans and on the Eastern Front," and of being a "Nazi butcher" without providing some proof to support their claim. Either this fellow has some evidence, or he doesn't (I couldn't find anything on this forum that would back up his charges against Wittmann). If he said that, and when asked, doesn't have any proof to back it up, he's just a dim troll. Not every German was a war criminal, and not every war criminal was a Nazi -- proof is required to show who is a criminal.
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Postby Christian W. on 10 Dec 2004 08:38

If you are a member of SS that doesnt mean you have to be a heartles butcher, does it? Ect: Finnish Waffen SS troops didnt commit any warcrimes.
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Postby James Tainton on 10 Dec 2004 08:44

I am wanting to see if there is any evidence of any "atrocities" before I rebut this most likely, ignorant statement this person has made.
-don't want to go off half cocked :)
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Postby Max Williams on 10 Dec 2004 10:39

panzerboy wrote:I am wanting to see if there is any evidence of any "atrocities" before I rebut this most likely, ignorant statement this person has made.
-don't want to go off half cocked :)


I wouldn't bother.

......and well said David.
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Re: Michael Wittmann membership to SS and atrocities

Postby Phil V on 10 Dec 2004 11:37

panzerboy wrote:From another site

Maybe I'm out of line here, but I think it bears mentioning that Wittmann was not regular army; he was SS. He was a devout member of the Nazi Party who committed God knows how many atrocities while engaged in counter partisan operations in the Balkans and on the Eastern Front. My point is, wanting to accurately depict Wittmann's Tiger is perfectly fine; referring to a Nazi butcher as "a real hero" is not.


was he a butcher?


It would seem that the author of this comment equates SS membership with atrocities without giving any tangible evidence.

Making the statement "committed God knows how many atrocities" suggests an inability to provide researched and/or historical instances of such events.

Mr panzerboy, I wouldn't bother rebuking or arguing with the individual who made this wild accusation. It is pointless arguing points of history with persons who are quite obviously irrational.

I would take the advice of both David Thompson and Max History who are both rather well informed of such matters.

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Postby JPK on 10 Dec 2004 12:15

Bonjour Panzerboy

Have a look at:The IMT Judgment on the Waffen-SS (23-24.03.2004)

viewtopic.php?t=46013

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Postby James Tainton on 11 Dec 2004 07:07

thanks
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