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star of the iron cross 1914

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star of the iron cross 1914

Postby VON THERMANN on 23 Jan 2005 02:13

Dear sirs: desire to consult if alone during the first world war the marshal Hindenburg was the unique one in obtaining this medal. Because it find an I catalogue of the business of friedrich sedlatzek where comments that this medal was earned by Mackensen, Ludendorf, and the principe leopold von bayern.
A series of TV where is spoken of the ascent of hitler al to be able, is shown to the general one ludendorf with the star of the cross of iron, this caused doubted me even a little but. many thanks
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Postby HPL2008 on 23 Jan 2005 09:40

Von Hindenburg, von Mackensen, Ludendorff, Leopold von Bayern and Kaiser Wilhelm all received the Grand Cross of the Iron Cross, but Hindenburg was indeed the only recipient of the Star to the 1914 Grand Cross of the Iron Cross.
(The only other recipient of the Star to the Iron Cross - in this case the 1813 Iron Cross - was Field Marshal Blücher, hence it was also known as the "Blücherstern".)
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Postby VON THERMANN on 23 Jan 2005 12:44

thanks very much
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Postby Koenig u. Kaisertreu on 20 Feb 2005 21:08

The Grand Cross Iron Cross Star 1914 was awarded ONLY to Hindenburg, & is frequently called the "Hindenburg" Star..Others received the Grand Cross Iron Cross, but the Star was a special Grade...The only previous award of the Star to the Grand Cross was to Fieldmarschall Bluecher (the so-called Bluecherstern) of the 1813 variety....A 1939 Grand Cross Star was also made, presumably for Goering's victory over the RAF which didn't happen, but that award was never made..That Star is today it the Museum of the West Point Military Academy in USA.
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Postby webr55 on 06 Jul 2005 08:11

Hernan,
I think I know which series you mean: Hitler - Rise of Evil. They got things very wrong and indeed showed Ludendorff with the Iron Cross Star.

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1914 Grand Cross Iron Cross Star

Postby Koenig u. Kaisertreu on 07 Jul 2005 01:59

Chris & Hernan: I'm very curious to know how the Series you refer to managed to show Ludendorff with the Iron Cross Star...Someone must have dubbed it into the picture, as he would have never been seen so decorated, even for publicity purposes...If indeed it was added to the picture of Ludendorff it must have been done either from stupidity, or to discredit the man in some way.....Or is it possible that the picture is actually of von Hindenburg, & is incorrectly identified as Ludendorff ?....Please let me know...Thanks....Paul
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Postby webr55 on 07 Jul 2005 07:41

Misunderstanding: This was a TV MOVIE, not a documentary, with Friedrich v. Thun playing Ludendorff. Actually quite good, though not always historically correct.
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