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Centauro Artillery

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Post by David W » 19 Feb 2005, 19:59

Can any one help with any info on the 131 Artillery Regiment. T.O &E etc.

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Post by David W » 06 Mar 2005, 02:50

There must be some Italian Army experts amongst the forum members! :) :wink:


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Post by D. von Staberg » 06 Mar 2005, 10:33

I have a partila TO&E for Centaro in Nov. of 1942. It's found in "Mare Nostrum, The war in the mediterranean" by J Green, A Massignani and U Blenneman.

It shows the 131st Artillery regimetn with 1 batalion of 105/28 howitzers, 2 batalions of 75/27 cannon, 2 batalions of Semovente 75/18 and 2 batalions of Semovente 90/53. The last two units only had two companies/batteries each instead of three.

The notes attached to the TO&E further states that "(...)several components never arrived from Italy, primarily the artillery units." so not all units listed above took part in the last stage of the North African campaign.

/Daniel

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Post by David W » 06 Mar 2005, 10:50

D.v.S

Do any of the Artigliere Battaglione/Gruppo you mention above, have numbers?

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Post by Lupo Solitario » 06 Mar 2005, 17:01

D. von Staberg wrote:I have a partila TO&E for Centaro in Nov. of 1942. It's found in "Mare Nostrum, The war in the mediterranean" by J Green, A Massignani and U Blenneman.

It shows the 131st Artillery regimetn with 1 batalion of 105/28 howitzers, 2 batalions of 75/27 cannon, 2 batalions of Semovente 75/18 and 2 batalions of Semovente 90/53. The last two units only had two companies/batteries each instead of three.

The notes atatched to the TO&E further states that "(...)several components never arrived from Italy, primarily the artillery units."

/Daniel
mmm I 've not the named book but I am sure that no Semovente 90/53 ever reached north africa...

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Post by David W » 06 Mar 2005, 18:06

Lupo, I wonder if D.v.S means the truck mounted 90/53 of the DII Gruppo.

I too have my doubts as to 90/53 Semovente in N Africa.

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Post by D. von Staberg » 06 Mar 2005, 18:27

No numers are given on the TO&E chart, the 90/53 units are shown with the SP Artillery/Assult gun symbol while in an earlier TO&E truck mounted 90/53 are shown with a motorized AAA symbol. The Centauro TO&E shows what the division had, not what arrived in North Africa. I did quote the notes which said that a number of units notably artillery never arrived in NA in my first post. ;-)

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Post by David W » 06 Mar 2005, 18:35

Now I understand clearly, thank you.

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