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Fire and Ice documentary

#1

Post by Bair » 24 Feb 2005, 17:21

OK,

so the shooting of the second half of Fire and Ice in Finland is over. The first two days of the shoot involved about 55 reenactors from St Petersburg, Petrozavodsk and London, the second two days involved smaller number of men, they were from Southern Häme reserve district.

The shoot happened in two places: Miehikkälä Salpa Line museum and Tank Brigade firing range in Parola. Some of the exciting scenes:

- massive attack of Red Army infantry (some 40 reenactors) coming under Finnish artillery barrage
- Finns firing Maxim from bunker
- execution of kombrig Vinogradov
- night fighting in trenches
- assault of Red Army with artillery and armor support (Parola, 1 T-26 tank)
- execution of Captain Ryazanov, battalion commander of 76th Light Tank Battalion, Lemetti motti
- Finnish assault on anti-tank artillery battalion of 44th Rifle Division on Raattee road
- Burning a T-26 tank with Molotov cocktail
- blowing up a T-26 tank wtih a satchel charge
- sausage war
- the last moments of war

Some pictures will be available on my webpage in about a week.

with best regards,

Bair

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Post by Juha Hujanen » 24 Feb 2005, 18:25

I'm looking forward to see that documentary.

The filming made to TV news too.Now both Finnish Mod's are TV celebrities ;)

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Post by Tero » 24 Feb 2005, 20:48

Juha Hujanen wrote:I'm looking forward to see that documentary.

The filming made to TV news too.Now both Finnish Mod's are TV celebrities ;)

Cheers/Juha
Any chance of seeing the bits anywhere (YLE, MTV3) net TV ?

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Post by Bair » 24 Feb 2005, 21:49

Not untill autumn 2005, I'm afraid. Mastersworkmedia and I will put as many stills from the documentary as possible on the net, but the documentary will only be released in the summer. :(

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Post by Tero » 24 Feb 2005, 22:17

Bair wrote:Not untill autumn 2005, I'm afraid. Mastersworkmedia and I will put as many stills from the documentary as possible on the net, but the documentary will only be released in the summer. :(

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I meant the TV spots. :)

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Post by Juha Hujanen » 25 Feb 2005, 20:04

The TV spot was in Kulttuuriuutiset.Mayby it will be re-run in Yle24?

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Post by Bair » 14 Mar 2005, 14:58

Pictures from the shooting of the documentary finally added to

http://www.mannerheim-line.com/fire-and-ice01.htm

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#8

Post by Karri » 14 Mar 2005, 15:53

Looks nice. When/where will this document be shown?

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Post by Sotka » 14 Mar 2005, 16:25

I agree with Karri, looks very nice!

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Tuomo A.

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Post by Eisenfaust » 14 Mar 2005, 17:19

Looks rather nice. I wish there weren't M39 rifles in the documentary. A Soviet in the middle of the picture is shooting one. I recall seeing one other photo where a Soviet is carrying one. Are the other two soldiers shooting Finnish rifles also?

Only 10 rifles [M39] had been produced by the start of the Winter War with the Soviets in November of 1939. As a result of this conflict, the production of the rifle was put on hold and emergency production of the m/91 was again undertaken.
http://www.mosinnagant.net/finland/finn ... antm39.asp

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#11

Post by KalaVelka » 14 Mar 2005, 17:24

Bair, are you russian or finnish?

/Kasper

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Post by Mek » 14 Mar 2005, 18:04

Whoah, looks really great. Looking forward to see the documentary, that is hopefully it will be shown somewhere
or sold on DVD or something.

Is that T-26 that is burning fully operational tank? Heh, I mean did they let you light a workable tank on fire? :D

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Post by Harri » 14 Mar 2005, 18:06

Bair is Russian - but I'd say he has "very close relationships" to Finland and Finns. :wink:

Photos look nice. Although I think the scenes don't look as "massive" as they really were over 65 years ago, I'm still too looking forward to seeing this documentary.

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Post by Gespenst » 14 Mar 2005, 20:30

Looks neat, a little bit too neat actually.
Most of those soldiers look too clean to me. I would have expected clothes stained with dirt, snot, blood and sweat.
Of course doing all that laundry would increase the production costs for no reasonable end. :P

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Post by Bair » 14 Mar 2005, 21:22

Hi,

Yes I know we screwed up with M39 rifles :( but that was due to limited budget and we decided to rent rifles for only part of the Red Army so that Red Army reenactors would use mostly M91 rifles and men with M39 would be in the background. On the spot of course everyone got mized up and some guys with M39s emerged in the foreground :(

As for burning T-26 - tank museum in Parola has a lot os fpare hulls and turrets for T-26 so they just put an empty T-26 together and the special effects guys could burn it as much as they wanted :P

Yes in many cases uniforms were too clean but that is due to the fact that all the actors are reenactors and well... you know reenactors - they never want to look dirty and stain their beautiful uniforms with anything.

I am a Russian and live/work in Helsinki.

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Bair

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