Ron Klages' Hetzer Distribution List!!!!
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Ron Klages' Hetzer Distribution List!!!!
Seeker,
Here is a list of Hetzer allocations by unit from several sources. It is still a work in progress.
•Czechoslovak Armored Fighting Vehicles 1918-1948 by Kliment and Francev
•Hetzer booklet from MBI
•Delivery Records as provided by Martin Block
Best regards,
Ron Klages
Legend
Unit/date/month/year/quantity
Bergen/28/May/1944/2
Hillersborn/28/May/1944/2
Wa Prüf 7/28/May/1944/1
Wünsdorf/28/May/1944/1
Berka/30/May/1944/3
Kummersdorf/30/May/1944/5
PJ Schule Mielau/30/May/1944/7
Putlos/30/May/1944/1
Ersatzheer/29/June/1944/4
Ersatzheer/30/June/1944/4
Ersatzheer/1/July/1944/4
PJA 731/4/July/1944/14
Ersatzheer/5/July/1944/2
PJA 731/6/July/1944/31
Ersatzheer/19/July/1944/16
PJA 743/19/July/1944/28
Ersatzheer/25/July/1944/7
PJA 743/28/July/1944/17
PJA 15/5/August/1944/14
PJA 176/7/August/1944/14
PJA 335/10/August/1944/14
PJA 257/13/August/1944/14
StuG. Abt. 1179/13/August/1944/14
SS PJA 20/14/August/1944/14
NSKK Schule/25/August/1944/1
SS PJA 8/26/August/1944/14
PJA 97/28/August/1944/14
Kummersdorf/31/August/1944/1
PJ Schule Mielau/31/August/1944/7
Wa Prüf 6/31/August/1944/1
PJA 306/1/September/1944/14
Aufstellungs-Stab Süd/3/September/1944/3
PJA 376/4/September/1944/14
SS PJA 8/7/September/1944/15
Ersatzheer/8/September/1944/4
PJA 219/9/September/1944/14
PJA 246/9/September/1944/14
Ersatzheer/11/September/1944/4
Ersatzheer/12/September/1944/7
Ersatzheer/13/September/1944/5
Ersatzheer/15/September/1944/8
PJA 363/16/September/1944/14
Ersatzheer/18/September/1944/2
PJA 741/18/September/1944/15
PJA 741/21/September/1944/15
Fa. Krupp/Alkett/25/September/1944/2
SS PJA 16/29/September/1944/10
PJA 741/3/October/1944/15
PJ Schule Milowitz/5/October/1944/10
Ersatzheer/7/October/1944/1
SS Abrechn Sept./8/October/1944/4
SS PJA 22/10/October/1944/7
PJA 349/11/October/1944/14
PJA 222/20/October/1944/14
PJA 46/20/October/1944/14
SS PJA 15/21/October/1944/14
PJA 1818/22/October/1944/14
PJA 277/23/October/1944/14
PJA 708/23/October/1944/14
SS PJA 22/26/October/1944/14
PJA 272/28/October/1944/14
Gbrs. PJA 94/31/October/1944/14
PJA 304/31/October/1944/14
Wishau/31/October/1944/2
PJA 26/2/November/1944/14
SS PJA 19/4/November/1944/14
PJA 147/6/November/1944/14
PJA 337/10/November/1944/14
SS Abrechn Oct./11/November/1944/3
PJA 352/13/November/1944/14
PJA 340/15/November/1944/14
SS Abrechn Oct./15/November/1944/3
PJA 731/16/November/1944/10
PJA 162/17/November/1944/14
PJA 9/18/November/1944/14
PJA 326/19/November/1944/14
PJA 346/19/November/1944/14
PJA 711/21/November/1944/14
PJKp. 1243/21/November/1944/14
PJA 741/24/November/1944/3
PJA 167/25/November/1944/14
PJA 716/25/November/1944/14
PJA 741/25/November/1944/9
PJKp. Bock/26/November/1944/14
PJKp. Lang/26/November/1944/14
PJA 344/27/November/1944/14
PJKp. Pankow/27/November/1944/14
PJA 271/1/December/1944/14
PJA 320/3/December/1944/14
SS PJA 16/4/December/1944/10
PJA 743/3/December/1944/3
Hungary/7/December/1944/25
PJA 1316/7/December/1944/14
PJA 179/7/December/1944/14
PJA 245/7/December/1944/14
PJA 252/7/December/1944/14
Hungary/10/December/1944/25
Artillerie-Schule Burg/13/December/1944/2
SS PJA 16/13/December/1944/5
Ausb.Abt. Süd/14/December/1944/3
PJA 168/14/December/1944/14
PJA 219/14/December/1944/4
PJA 246/14/December/1944/4
SS PJA 16/15/December/1944/10
Ausb.Abt. Lonigo/16/December/1944/3
PJA 46/16/December/1944/4
PJKp. 1055 [P.E.2a]/16/December/1944/14
H.Gr. Süd/17/December/1944/32
PJKp. 1006/17/December/1944/1
SS Abrechn Dez./22/December/1944/8
PJA 731/24/December/1944/20
SS PJA 31/27/December/1944/14
PJA 194/28/December/1944/7
PE 7c/1/January/1945/14
PJA 211/1/January/1945/14
SS PJA 14/2/January/1945/14
PJA 165/4/January/1945/14
PJA 716/8/January/1945/4
PJA 743/10/January/1945/10
PJKp. Gekeler/11/January/1945/10
SS PJA 16/11/January/1945/4
Wa Prüf 6/11/January/1945/1
Hungary/12/January/1945/25
PJA 173/15/January/1945/14
PJA 359/15/January/1945/14
PJA 21/17/January/1945/14
PJA 257/17/January/1945/14
Ersatzheer/18/January/1945/32
H.Gr. A/19/January/1945/13
PJA 384/19/January/1945/14
PJKp zbV PzAOK 1/19/January/1945/14
H.Gr. A/21/January/1945/3
PJA 1542/23/January/1945/14
PJA 222/23/January/1945/10
PJA 271/23/January/1945/14
PJKp. 1183/23/January/1945/14
PJA 129/24/January/1945/14
PJA 1547/25/January/1945/14
PJA 1551/25/January/1945/14
PJA 203/25/January/1945/14
PJKp. RFSS/25/January/1945/10
PJA 278/28/January/1945/14
PJA 334/28/January/1945/14
PJA 510/29/January/1945/28
PE 33a/1/February/1945/14
PJA 1[PE 6a]/2/February/1945/14
SS PJA 20/2/February/1945/5
PJA 2[PE 6b]/5/February/1945/14
SS Abrechn Dez./5/February/1945/11
PJA 4[PE 13b]/8/February/1945/14
PJA 5[PE 43b]/8/February/1945/14
SS Abrechn Januar/9/February/1945/16
H.Gr. Mitte/10/February/1945/8
PJA 561/10/February/1945/20
Ersatzheer/12/February/1945/18
FUS Wishau/12/February/1945/5
PE 9c/12/February/1945/14
SS PJA 20/12/February/1945/5
Fsch. PJA 9/14/February/1945/14
PJA 743/15/February/1945/31
PJA 1600/17/February/1945/10
SS PJKp. Bad Sarow/18/February/1945/14
PJA 275/22/February/1945/10
Polizei-Brgd. Wirth/22/February/1945/10
PJA Jüterbog/23/February/1945/21
PJA Schlesien/23/February/1945/21
PJA 356/25/February/1945/14
H.Gr. B/2/March/1945/10
H.Gr. H/2/March/1945/10
JPKp. 1222/2/March/1945/8
PJA 1176 /2/March/1945/1
PJA 357/2/March/1945/11
PJA 744/3/March/1945/31
Nachshub West/5/March/1945/6
PJA 162/5/March/1945/8
PJA 272/5/March/1945/6
Befh. Waffen SS B u M/6/March/1945/6
H.Gr. Mitte/6/March/1945/20
H.Gr. Nord/6/March/1945/20
PE Milowitz F/6/March/1945/10
PE Milowitz G/7/March/1945/10
PJA 230/7/March/1945/10
PJA 234/7/March/1945/10
PJKp. RFSS/7/March/1945/10
PJA FHH 2/8/March/1945/20
StuG Brig. 236/8/March/1945/10
StuG Brig. 236/9/March/1945/21
PJA 171/10/March/1945/10
PJA 305/11/March/1945/10
PJA 362/11/March/1945/10
PJA 251/12/March/1945/10
PJA 304/12/March/1945/10
Ersatzheer/13/March/1945/2
JPKp. 1006/14/March/1945/10
PJA 17/15/March/1945/10
JPKp. 1089/16/March/1945/10
PJA FHH 1/16/March/1945/21
Gbrs. PJA 44/18/March/1945/10
Nachschub Ob. West/19/March/1945/20
PJA ???/22/March/1945/10
JPKp. 1106/25/March/1945/10
SS Abrechn Febr./25/March/1945/10
Nachschub Ob. West/26/March/1945/22
PJA 1553/26/March/1945/10
JPKp. 1716/27/March/1945/10
Nachschub Ob. West/28/March/1945/20
H.Gr. Mitte/1/April/1945/20
PJA 3/7/April/1945/21
PJA 715/7/April/1945/10
PJA Scharnhorst/8/April/1945/10
PJA Ulrich v Hutten/10/April/1945/10
JPKp. 1235/11/April/1945/10
JPKp. 1245/11/April/1945/10
JPKp. 1257/11/April/1945/10
PJA 185/12/April/1945/10
SS PJA 38/15/April/1945/10
PJA Friedrich L. Jahn/16/April/1945/10
PJA Schlageter/17/April/1945/10
Total 2533 vehicles
(Commissar's note: I've made this a sticky as it is very important information to have and Ron did the Forum a Great Service by compiling it. Great Job Ron!!! Best Regards, David)
Here is a list of Hetzer allocations by unit from several sources. It is still a work in progress.
•Czechoslovak Armored Fighting Vehicles 1918-1948 by Kliment and Francev
•Hetzer booklet from MBI
•Delivery Records as provided by Martin Block
Best regards,
Ron Klages
Legend
Unit/date/month/year/quantity
Bergen/28/May/1944/2
Hillersborn/28/May/1944/2
Wa Prüf 7/28/May/1944/1
Wünsdorf/28/May/1944/1
Berka/30/May/1944/3
Kummersdorf/30/May/1944/5
PJ Schule Mielau/30/May/1944/7
Putlos/30/May/1944/1
Ersatzheer/29/June/1944/4
Ersatzheer/30/June/1944/4
Ersatzheer/1/July/1944/4
PJA 731/4/July/1944/14
Ersatzheer/5/July/1944/2
PJA 731/6/July/1944/31
Ersatzheer/19/July/1944/16
PJA 743/19/July/1944/28
Ersatzheer/25/July/1944/7
PJA 743/28/July/1944/17
PJA 15/5/August/1944/14
PJA 176/7/August/1944/14
PJA 335/10/August/1944/14
PJA 257/13/August/1944/14
StuG. Abt. 1179/13/August/1944/14
SS PJA 20/14/August/1944/14
NSKK Schule/25/August/1944/1
SS PJA 8/26/August/1944/14
PJA 97/28/August/1944/14
Kummersdorf/31/August/1944/1
PJ Schule Mielau/31/August/1944/7
Wa Prüf 6/31/August/1944/1
PJA 306/1/September/1944/14
Aufstellungs-Stab Süd/3/September/1944/3
PJA 376/4/September/1944/14
SS PJA 8/7/September/1944/15
Ersatzheer/8/September/1944/4
PJA 219/9/September/1944/14
PJA 246/9/September/1944/14
Ersatzheer/11/September/1944/4
Ersatzheer/12/September/1944/7
Ersatzheer/13/September/1944/5
Ersatzheer/15/September/1944/8
PJA 363/16/September/1944/14
Ersatzheer/18/September/1944/2
PJA 741/18/September/1944/15
PJA 741/21/September/1944/15
Fa. Krupp/Alkett/25/September/1944/2
SS PJA 16/29/September/1944/10
PJA 741/3/October/1944/15
PJ Schule Milowitz/5/October/1944/10
Ersatzheer/7/October/1944/1
SS Abrechn Sept./8/October/1944/4
SS PJA 22/10/October/1944/7
PJA 349/11/October/1944/14
PJA 222/20/October/1944/14
PJA 46/20/October/1944/14
SS PJA 15/21/October/1944/14
PJA 1818/22/October/1944/14
PJA 277/23/October/1944/14
PJA 708/23/October/1944/14
SS PJA 22/26/October/1944/14
PJA 272/28/October/1944/14
Gbrs. PJA 94/31/October/1944/14
PJA 304/31/October/1944/14
Wishau/31/October/1944/2
PJA 26/2/November/1944/14
SS PJA 19/4/November/1944/14
PJA 147/6/November/1944/14
PJA 337/10/November/1944/14
SS Abrechn Oct./11/November/1944/3
PJA 352/13/November/1944/14
PJA 340/15/November/1944/14
SS Abrechn Oct./15/November/1944/3
PJA 731/16/November/1944/10
PJA 162/17/November/1944/14
PJA 9/18/November/1944/14
PJA 326/19/November/1944/14
PJA 346/19/November/1944/14
PJA 711/21/November/1944/14
PJKp. 1243/21/November/1944/14
PJA 741/24/November/1944/3
PJA 167/25/November/1944/14
PJA 716/25/November/1944/14
PJA 741/25/November/1944/9
PJKp. Bock/26/November/1944/14
PJKp. Lang/26/November/1944/14
PJA 344/27/November/1944/14
PJKp. Pankow/27/November/1944/14
PJA 271/1/December/1944/14
PJA 320/3/December/1944/14
SS PJA 16/4/December/1944/10
PJA 743/3/December/1944/3
Hungary/7/December/1944/25
PJA 1316/7/December/1944/14
PJA 179/7/December/1944/14
PJA 245/7/December/1944/14
PJA 252/7/December/1944/14
Hungary/10/December/1944/25
Artillerie-Schule Burg/13/December/1944/2
SS PJA 16/13/December/1944/5
Ausb.Abt. Süd/14/December/1944/3
PJA 168/14/December/1944/14
PJA 219/14/December/1944/4
PJA 246/14/December/1944/4
SS PJA 16/15/December/1944/10
Ausb.Abt. Lonigo/16/December/1944/3
PJA 46/16/December/1944/4
PJKp. 1055 [P.E.2a]/16/December/1944/14
H.Gr. Süd/17/December/1944/32
PJKp. 1006/17/December/1944/1
SS Abrechn Dez./22/December/1944/8
PJA 731/24/December/1944/20
SS PJA 31/27/December/1944/14
PJA 194/28/December/1944/7
PE 7c/1/January/1945/14
PJA 211/1/January/1945/14
SS PJA 14/2/January/1945/14
PJA 165/4/January/1945/14
PJA 716/8/January/1945/4
PJA 743/10/January/1945/10
PJKp. Gekeler/11/January/1945/10
SS PJA 16/11/January/1945/4
Wa Prüf 6/11/January/1945/1
Hungary/12/January/1945/25
PJA 173/15/January/1945/14
PJA 359/15/January/1945/14
PJA 21/17/January/1945/14
PJA 257/17/January/1945/14
Ersatzheer/18/January/1945/32
H.Gr. A/19/January/1945/13
PJA 384/19/January/1945/14
PJKp zbV PzAOK 1/19/January/1945/14
H.Gr. A/21/January/1945/3
PJA 1542/23/January/1945/14
PJA 222/23/January/1945/10
PJA 271/23/January/1945/14
PJKp. 1183/23/January/1945/14
PJA 129/24/January/1945/14
PJA 1547/25/January/1945/14
PJA 1551/25/January/1945/14
PJA 203/25/January/1945/14
PJKp. RFSS/25/January/1945/10
PJA 278/28/January/1945/14
PJA 334/28/January/1945/14
PJA 510/29/January/1945/28
PE 33a/1/February/1945/14
PJA 1[PE 6a]/2/February/1945/14
SS PJA 20/2/February/1945/5
PJA 2[PE 6b]/5/February/1945/14
SS Abrechn Dez./5/February/1945/11
PJA 4[PE 13b]/8/February/1945/14
PJA 5[PE 43b]/8/February/1945/14
SS Abrechn Januar/9/February/1945/16
H.Gr. Mitte/10/February/1945/8
PJA 561/10/February/1945/20
Ersatzheer/12/February/1945/18
FUS Wishau/12/February/1945/5
PE 9c/12/February/1945/14
SS PJA 20/12/February/1945/5
Fsch. PJA 9/14/February/1945/14
PJA 743/15/February/1945/31
PJA 1600/17/February/1945/10
SS PJKp. Bad Sarow/18/February/1945/14
PJA 275/22/February/1945/10
Polizei-Brgd. Wirth/22/February/1945/10
PJA Jüterbog/23/February/1945/21
PJA Schlesien/23/February/1945/21
PJA 356/25/February/1945/14
H.Gr. B/2/March/1945/10
H.Gr. H/2/March/1945/10
JPKp. 1222/2/March/1945/8
PJA 1176 /2/March/1945/1
PJA 357/2/March/1945/11
PJA 744/3/March/1945/31
Nachshub West/5/March/1945/6
PJA 162/5/March/1945/8
PJA 272/5/March/1945/6
Befh. Waffen SS B u M/6/March/1945/6
H.Gr. Mitte/6/March/1945/20
H.Gr. Nord/6/March/1945/20
PE Milowitz F/6/March/1945/10
PE Milowitz G/7/March/1945/10
PJA 230/7/March/1945/10
PJA 234/7/March/1945/10
PJKp. RFSS/7/March/1945/10
PJA FHH 2/8/March/1945/20
StuG Brig. 236/8/March/1945/10
StuG Brig. 236/9/March/1945/21
PJA 171/10/March/1945/10
PJA 305/11/March/1945/10
PJA 362/11/March/1945/10
PJA 251/12/March/1945/10
PJA 304/12/March/1945/10
Ersatzheer/13/March/1945/2
JPKp. 1006/14/March/1945/10
PJA 17/15/March/1945/10
JPKp. 1089/16/March/1945/10
PJA FHH 1/16/March/1945/21
Gbrs. PJA 44/18/March/1945/10
Nachschub Ob. West/19/March/1945/20
PJA ???/22/March/1945/10
JPKp. 1106/25/March/1945/10
SS Abrechn Febr./25/March/1945/10
Nachschub Ob. West/26/March/1945/22
PJA 1553/26/March/1945/10
JPKp. 1716/27/March/1945/10
Nachschub Ob. West/28/March/1945/20
H.Gr. Mitte/1/April/1945/20
PJA 3/7/April/1945/21
PJA 715/7/April/1945/10
PJA Scharnhorst/8/April/1945/10
PJA Ulrich v Hutten/10/April/1945/10
JPKp. 1235/11/April/1945/10
JPKp. 1245/11/April/1945/10
JPKp. 1257/11/April/1945/10
PJA 185/12/April/1945/10
SS PJA 38/15/April/1945/10
PJA Friedrich L. Jahn/16/April/1945/10
PJA Schlageter/17/April/1945/10
Total 2533 vehicles
(Commissar's note: I've made this a sticky as it is very important information to have and Ron did the Forum a Great Service by compiling it. Great Job Ron!!! Best Regards, David)
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Re: Ron Klages' Hetzer Distribution List!!!!
Hi Ron,
Just out of curiosity, how does this list of arrivals compare to the list of those vehicles assigned that I compiled from the Fuhrer Vortrage? It may be interesting to see how the planned distribution was changed.
Rich
Just out of curiosity, how does this list of arrivals compare to the list of those vehicles assigned that I compiled from the Fuhrer Vortrage? It may be interesting to see how the planned distribution was changed.
Rich
- greg higdon
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Hetzer Distribution List
I did not see any allocations to the Russian Liberation Army. At Kublinka Museum there is a Hetzer in the markings of that organization/unit
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It is there
Greg,
It shows up in the list as:
PJA 1600/17/February/1945/10
PJA 1600 was part of the 600. Inf.Div. which was the Russian Liberation ary under Vlassov.
Best regards,
Ron Klages
It shows up in the list as:
PJA 1600/17/February/1945/10
PJA 1600 was part of the 600. Inf.Div. which was the Russian Liberation ary under Vlassov.
Best regards,
Ron Klages
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Vaslov's Hetzer
I found them. I am glad to know that 10 were listed. I guess that any 3 colour camoflage scheme would work. That maybe my next project.
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In the list you see the numbers of the Panzerjägerabteilungen (PJA). Take any reference for SS-Divisions .. for example the Axis factbook - http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=50 and look to which divisions these PJA belonged to. In many cases the number of tha PJA is the same as the number of the division.
\Christoph
\Christoph
Some things (eg.:abbriviations, expressions) are not clear to me. Please help!
What was the Wa Prüf 7 and 6 responsible for?
What is Ersatzheer and Aufstellungs-Stab Süd?
Whats is Fa. Krupp/Alkett?
What is "SS Abrechn Sept." ?
RB
What are these locations: Bergen, Hillersborn, Wünsdorf, stb. ??? Testing-ranges?Bergen/28/May/1944/2
Hillersborn/28/May/1944/2
Wünsdorf/28/May/1944/1
Berka/30/May/1944/3
Kummersdorf/30/May/1944/5
Putlos/30/May/1944/1
What was the Wa Prüf 7 and 6 responsible for?
What is Ersatzheer and Aufstellungs-Stab Süd?
Whats is Fa. Krupp/Alkett?
What is "SS Abrechn Sept." ?
RB
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Some Answers
RB,
Some answers
Q. What are these locations: Bergen, Hillersborn, Wünsdorf, stb. ??? Testing-ranges?
A. VARIOUS MILITARY FACILITIES FOR TRAINING, EVALUATION, ETC.
Q. What was the Wa Prüf 7 and 6 responsible for?
A. MILITARY DEPARTMENTS FOR DEVELOPMENT AND TESTING OF ARMOR SYSTEMS.
Q. What is Ersatzheer and Aufstellungs-Stab Süd?
A. UNITS ASSIGNED FOR REPLACEMENT AND TRAINING WITH HEADQUARTERS-SOUTH in Italy
Q.Whats is Fa. Krupp/Alkett?
A. THESE TWO VEHICLES WERE ASSIGNED TO THE MANUFACTURE KRUPP/ALKETT FOR DEVELOPMENT OF A RIGID MOUNTED GUN
Q. What is "SS Abrechn Sept." ?
A. THESE ARE REPLACEMENT UNITS ASSIGNED TO THE SS BY MONTH. SEPTEMBER-OCTOBER-DECEMBER-JANUARY
best regards,
Ron Klages
Some answers
Q. What are these locations: Bergen, Hillersborn, Wünsdorf, stb. ??? Testing-ranges?
A. VARIOUS MILITARY FACILITIES FOR TRAINING, EVALUATION, ETC.
Q. What was the Wa Prüf 7 and 6 responsible for?
A. MILITARY DEPARTMENTS FOR DEVELOPMENT AND TESTING OF ARMOR SYSTEMS.
Q. What is Ersatzheer and Aufstellungs-Stab Süd?
A. UNITS ASSIGNED FOR REPLACEMENT AND TRAINING WITH HEADQUARTERS-SOUTH in Italy
Q.Whats is Fa. Krupp/Alkett?
A. THESE TWO VEHICLES WERE ASSIGNED TO THE MANUFACTURE KRUPP/ALKETT FOR DEVELOPMENT OF A RIGID MOUNTED GUN
Q. What is "SS Abrechn Sept." ?
A. THESE ARE REPLACEMENT UNITS ASSIGNED TO THE SS BY MONTH. SEPTEMBER-OCTOBER-DECEMBER-JANUARY
best regards,
Ron Klages