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Paedophiliac crimes of the Red Army in Nemmersdorf 1944

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Paedophiliac crimes of the Red Army in Nemmersdorf 1944

Postby Panzermahn on 17 Jun 2005 13:51

Hi,

I would like to discuss specifically on paedophiliac crimes of the Red Army during its advance to the German eastern territories especially in Nemmersdorf 1944. Although there are many threads on Nemmersdorf, I believe there are none that is dedicated to the paedophilica crimes of the Red Army.

Also this topic is created in response to the post here

viewtopic.php?t=79896


The picture that I described that was taken which portrayed the murder of German children by Red Army troops in Nemmersdorf in which the body of a young girl, were shown, to have her pants yanked down which implicated that a rape has occured while the body at the right was a young boy.

Warning! The picture shown here http://www.deutsche-zeitung.com/Vorhof/Redaktion_1/ARCHIV/Russische_Kriegsverbrechen/Nemmersdorf/Nemmerdorf_Kinder.jpg is graphic and proceed at your own risk

Einstimmig wurde dann festgestellt, daß sämtliche Frauen wie Mädchen von 8 - 12 Jahren vergewaltigt waren, auch die alte blinde Frau von 84 Jahren. Nach der Besichtigung durch die Kommission wurden die Leichen endgültig beigesetzt

http://www.deutsche-zeitung.com/Vorhof/ ... sdorf.html

Translation above on the selected quote

Unanimously then one determined, the fact that all women such as girls of 8 - 12 years was raped, also the old blind woman of 84 years. After the inspection by the commission the corpses were finally buried

Image

http://www.polarfilm.de/php/shop/index. ... in=details
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Postby David Thompson on 17 Jun 2005 13:56

Panzermahn -- You said:
I would like to discuss specifically on paedophiliac crimes of the Red Army during its advance to the German eastern territories especially in Nemmersdorf 1944. Although there are many threads on Nemmersdorf, I believe there are none that is dedicated to the paedophilica crimes of the Red Army.

What is your basis for attributing these acts to the Red Army, instead of to individual deviants?
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Postby Panzermahn on 17 Jun 2005 14:19

David Thompson wrote:Panzermahn -- You said:
I would like to discuss specifically on paedophiliac crimes of the Red Army during its advance to the German eastern territories especially in Nemmersdorf 1944. Although there are many threads on Nemmersdorf, I believe there are none that is dedicated to the paedophilica crimes of the Red Army.

What is your basis for attributing these acts to the Red Army, instead of to individual deviants?


Contextually, those individual deviants were soldiers of the Red Army and I did not stated that the entire Red Army soldiers were paedophiliacs.

Well, at least i gave some sources or allegations (for those who did not believe it) about paedophiliac crimes of the Red Army. I am waiting PanzerMonkey's turn to gave his sources or even a single allegation which I asked from him in the Paedophilia and German Armed Forces post
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Postby David Thompson on 17 Jun 2005 15:15

Panzermahn -- You said:
Contextually, those individual deviants were soldiers of the Red Army and I did not stated that the entire Red Army soldiers were paedophiliacs.

However, you captioned this thread
Paedophiliac crimes of the Red Army in Nemmersdorf 1944

and you also said:
I would like to discuss specifically on paedophiliac crimes of the Red Army during its advance to the German eastern territories especially in Nemmersdorf 1944. Although there are many threads on Nemmersdorf, I believe there are none that is dedicated to the paedophilica crimes of the Red Army.

and:
Well, at least i gave some sources or allegations (for those who did not believe it) about paedophiliac crimes of the Red Army.

Your comments attribute the crimes to "the Red Army" generally, and not to individual deviants. If you have no basis for your generalization, there is no reason to keep the thread open. As you are well aware, there are already several open threads on the Nemmersdorf atrocities. A search in the H&WC section lists 28 threads in which those crimes are mentioned.

Those dealing specifically with Nemmersdorf include:

Nemmerdorf example of pre-planned Soviet atrocity
viewtopic.php?t=1697
"They raped every German female from eight to eighty"
viewtopic.php?t=2063
Gumbinnen atrocities
viewtopic.php?t=11199
“Father, shoot me”
viewtopic.php?t=6291

See also A perspective on Nazi and Russian Bolshevik war crimes
viewtopic.php?t=26806

As for PanzerMonkey's inquiry, he did not claim that paedophilia was either a policy or a prediliction in the German armed forces. He stated his basis for believing why paedophiliac crimes probably occurred, and asked for any available information on the topic. That makes his post no more than a sociological thread, as opposed to a propaganda piece like:

Did the Russians rape German POWs?
viewtopic.php?t=40640
or
Red Bolshevik cannabalism on german troops
viewtopic.php?p=323357

You have been warned about overbroad generalizations in the past, as well as about duplicative threads such as this one. I have had to deal with so many threads and posts seeking to attribute, without a shred of proof, the criminal acts of individuals to an entire nation or its armed forces that I am now inclined to lock such claims as soon as they appear.

In any event, since there are already open threads on this subject, this one is locked.
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