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Peter Kranz ......Berlin 1945

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Peter Kranz ......Berlin 1945

Postby Annelie on 31 Jul 2005 21:30

Wondering what happened to Peter Kranz very young hitler youth, whom was decorated by Hitler outside the Bunker in the final days.

Did he live or end up in capitivity? If he lives I hope he has had a good life.

One wonders what happened to these young boys.

:( :| :(
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Postby Durand on 01 Aug 2005 00:28

Hallo Annelie,

From what has been reported elsewhere on AHF, it seems that “Peter Kranz” is a fictional character in the film “Downfall” who is supposed to represent a composite of the experiences of the Hitler Youth fighting in Berlin during that period. For more, see below:


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Postby Annelie on 01 Aug 2005 05:50

Thanks Durand,

The name maybe fictional but the boy certainly wasn't. I have watched the clip of Hitler with this boy for years now on various history programs..but I guess it maybe one of those things to which we will not know.
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Postby Durand on 01 Aug 2005 12:36

Hallo Annelie,

A comment similar to yours was mentioned in the first linked provided above and a photograph of the event provided. It was suggested that the name of the boy in the photograph is Alfred Zeck. A check for Zeck here at AHF also reflected the possibility that the boy in question was Willi Huber. See:

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Postby Annelie on 01 Aug 2005 12:41

Thankyou Durand.
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Postby Durand on 01 Aug 2005 22:01

Hallo Annelie,

Out of curiosity, I did a bit more checking on Alfred ZECK. It seems that the name is spelled CZECH rather than ZECK. There was a discussion about this fellow at Feldgrau.com which turned up an interesting article from BILD on Alfred CZECH with information about his life after World War II.

The links are:

http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/20 ... il__1.html

http://www.feldgrau.net/phpBB2/viewtopi ... eter+kranz

A search for the name Alfred Czech (and Alfred Zeck) turns up loads of information. The following may be of interest:

The scenes in Downfall which have caused most outrage - those which show Hitler being nice to his dog and his secretaries or complimenting the cook on a plate of vegetarian ravioli - are all straight from the historical record. In only a couple of places does Eichinger fictionalise the story and stray towards Hollywood convention. One is the famous moment when a feeble and broken Hitler emerges from the bunker for the last time on 20 April 1945 - his 56th birthday - to pin decorations on the boy conscripts he has entrusted with defending Berlin to the last. In the film, the boy whose cheek Hitler pinches in an almost fatherly way receives his honour for zapping Russians with a mortar, whereas the real boy recipient, Alfred Czech, as emerged only this week, won the Iron Cross (which he has now thrown away) for saving wounded German soldiers.

In a rather queasy approximation of a happy ending to the film, the same boy is later shown escaping on a bicycle with Hitler's secretary through a sunlit forest, whereas in fact Czech and Junge were separately captured and it has been suggested that Junge had to give sexual favours to her Russian captors in order to escape.

http://film.guardian.co.uk/features/fea ... 68,00.html



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Postby Annelie on 02 Aug 2005 02:07

Thankyou Durand,

Was most interesting and I see others also found it so.
Also of interest in the thread was that Manstein had his name changed from Lewinsky.

With the correct name it is easier to do a search......danke!
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Postby Shc on 02 Aug 2005 03:02

Yes... Thank you Durand for finding the "real name" of the boy. I too was interested.

it has been suggested that Junge had to give sexual favours to her Russian captors in order to escape.


I don't really want to deviate from the subject but Junge gave sexual favours?
Has this been proven?


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Postby Karl on 02 Aug 2005 03:05

She has always denied it.
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