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French orbat Syria 1941.
Does anyone have any info (other site?) giving the order of battle and/or equipment (TOE) for the french in Syria/Lebenon at the time of the Allied invasion 1941.
Cheers, Graeme.
Cheers, Graeme.
Try this link for the air force OOB.
Edit Also this link for a British/Commonwealth OOB as well as a Vichy OOB for Aleppo only
Edit Also this link for a British/Commonwealth OOB as well as a Vichy OOB for Aleppo only
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Here you have a quite complete oob for the vichy force (and also for the Allies):
http://www.tdg.nu/OOBs/1939-1945/oob_op ... r_1941.htm
http://www.tdg.nu/OOBs/1939-1945/oob_op ... r_1941.htm
Re: French orbat Syria 1941.
Since the tdg.nu site is down, does anyone have the vichy land forces orbat for Syria 1941?
Re: French orbat Syria 1941.
Try contacting the webmaster?
http://web.holmenonline.net/toawsidor
Or here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_th ... rld_War_II
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria-Leba ... nch_forces
http://web.holmenonline.net/toawsidor
Or here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_th ... rld_War_II
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria-Leba ... nch_forces
The enemy had superiority in numbers, his tanks were more heavily armoured, they had larger calibre guns with nearly twice the effective range of ours, and their telescopes were superior. 5 RTR 19/11/41
The CRUSADER Project - The Winter Battle 1941/42
The CRUSADER Project - The Winter Battle 1941/42
Re: French orbat Syria 1941.
Ok, found this:
Ordre de bataille au 8 juin 1941 - VICHY
Armée de l'air
Groupes de Chasse
G.C. III/6 Dewoitine 520 : 25 Rayack (Liban)
G.C. I/7 Morane 406 : 12 Alep-Nerab (Syrie) + 6 Estabel (Liban)
Groupes de Bombardement
G.B. I/39 Glenn-Martin 167 F : 10 Rayack (Liban) + 2 Madjaloun (Liban)
E.B. 3/39 Bloch MB 200 : 6 Madjaloun (Liban)
Groupes de Reconnaissance / Observation
G.R. II/39 Potez 63.11 : 12 Damas-Mezzé (Syrie)
G.A.O. 583 Potez 63.11 : 5 Alep-Nerab (Syrie)
E.O. 592 Potez 25TOE : 6 Rayack (Lebanon)
E.O. 593 Potez 25TOE : 6 Alep-Nerab (Syrie)
E.O. 594 Potez 25TOE : 6 Damas-Mezzé (Syrie)
E.O. 595 Potez 25TOE : 6 Palmyre (Syrie)
E.O. 596 Potez 25TOE : 4 Deir ez-Zor (Syrie)
Escadrilles de l'Aéronautique Navale
Esc. 19S Loire 130 : 5 Tripoli (Liban)
Marine
2 DD : Valmy , Guepard ( Beyrout )
3 S/M : Souffleur , ? , ? ( Beyrout )
quelques petits navires ( 1 patrouilleur , 1 corvette ? - A VERIFIER )
Armée de Terre
Infanterie
-6e REI ( Homs ) ( 4bns+3 batteries d'artillerie de la legion )
-24e RMIC(Tripoli )(3bns)
-22e RTA(Liban )(3bns)
-29e RTA(Liban )(3bns)
-16e RTT(Syrie du sud )(3bns)
-17e RTS(Syrie du sud )(3bns)
-1e RTM ( Syrie ) ( uniquement le Ve Bn ))
- 3 Bns de Chasseurs Libanais ( Liban )
- 8 Bns du Levant (Syrie )
Cavalerie
-4e RST (Liban )
-1e RSM (Syrie )
-8e RSA (Liban )
-50 escadrons de cavalerie irreguliere ( druzes , libanais , kurdes etc ) regroupés en 4 groupes d'escadrons de ligne , 6 groupes d'escadrons Druzes et 8 escadrons Circassiens/Tcherkesses ) ( tous en syrie )
-3 Cies meharistes ( Syrie )
Blindés
-6e RCA ( 45 R35 ) 2 esc chars + 2 esc automitrailleuses ( Liban )
-7e RCA ( 45 R35 ) 2 esc chars + 2 esc automitrailleuses ( Syrie )
Artillerie
- RAC Levant ( Liban )
- 1e RAM ( Syrie )
- Groupe d'Alepp ( Syrie )
Ordre de bataille au 8 juin 1941 - Forces Franco-Anglo-Australo-Indiennes
Force "Gent"
Commandant ; General Legentilhomme
Chef d'etat major : lt-Col Koenig
Cie QG50 : Cap Bélan
-1e Bde FFL ( Col cazaud )
1e Bataillon de Légion Etrangère : Commandant Amilakvary
Bataillon de Marche n°1 : Commandant Delange
Bataillon de Marche n°3 : Commandant Garbay
-2e Bde FFL ( Col Génin )
1e Bataillon d'Infanterie de Marine : Commandant de Chevigné
Bataillon de Marche n°2 : Commandant de Roux
Bataillon de Marche n°4 : Commandant Bouillon
1e Bataillon de Fusiliers Marins : Capitaine Corv. Détroyat
1e Batterie Artillerie : Capitaine Laurent-Champrosay
1e Esc. Spahis.Marocains : Capitaine Jourdier
1e Cie de Chars ( et motards ) Capitaine Volvey
Section de Sapeurs-Mineurs : Lieutenant Desmaisons
- Groupe d'escadrons Tcherkesses : Colonel Collet ( 453h)
-1e Cie Transmissions : Capitaine Renard
-101e Cie Auto : Lieutenant Dulau
-Intendance : Intendant Bouton
-Gr. Exploitation : Lieutenant de Guillebon
-Service de Santé : Méd.Cap. Delavenne
-Ambulance chirurgicale : Méd.Cdt Vernier
-Hôpital de campagne : Hadfield-Spears Méd.Cdt Fruchaud
- 5e Bde Indienne ( General Lloyd )
1st Royal Fusiliers
4/6th Rajputana Rifles
3/1st Punjab Rifles
1st Field Regiment, Royal Artillery:
9th Field Battery, Royal Artillery
11th Field Battery, Royal Artillery
171th Light Anti-Aircraft Battery
18th Company, Royal Bombay Sappers and Miners
-2 bns britanniques- A IDENTIFIER
-Un Escadron des Royal Dragoons (en automitrailleuses) .numero non specifié - A IDENTIFIER
-Un Bataillon d'infanterie Australien - A IDENTIFIER , probablement le 2/25
-Une Compagnie lourde de mitrailleuses Australienne -2/3rd Australian Machine-Gun Battalion
-Un Escadron de Scouts Australien (automitrailleuses) -6th Australian Divisional Cavalry Regiment (light tanks)
-Un groupe d'artillerie Britannique- A IDENTIFIER
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7th Australian Division ( Major-General J D Lavarack)
-25th Australian Infantry Brigade
2/25th Battalion
2/31st Battalion
2/33rd Battalion
-21st Australian Infantry Brigade:
2/14th Battalion
2/16th Battalion
2/27th Battalion
-2/3rd Australian Machine-Gun Battalion ( moins 1 Cie )
-2/2nd Pioneers
-2/4th Australian Field Regiment
-2/5th Australian Field Regiment
-2/6th Australian Field Regiment
-2/2nd Antitank Regiment: 6th AT battery et 7th AT Battery
-170th Light Anti-Aircraft battery
-6th Australian Divisional Cavalry Regiment (light tanks) ( moins 1 sqd )
-2/5th Field Company, Royal Australian Engineers
-2/6th Field Company, Royal Australian Engineers
-2/5th Field Park Company, Royal Australian Engineers
-9th Australian Divisional Cavalry Regiment .
Forces aeriennes
No. 11 Squadron Blenheim IV
No. 80 Squadron Hurricanes
No. 3 R.A.A.F. Squadron Tomahawks
No. 208 Army Co-operation Sq. Hurricanes
X Flight Gladiators
detachement du 815 Sq., Swordfish
No. 84 Squadron Blenheim
Presents mais non assignés a Exporter
803 Squadron, Fulmars
829 Squadron, Swordfish/Albacore
Forces navales
Force B:
Croiseurs legers Phoebe et Ajax
Destroyers Kandahar , Kimberley , Jackal , Janus
Force C:
Croiseur AA Coventry
Transport d'assaut Glengyle
Destroyers Ilex , Isis , Hotspur , Hero
Source:
http://deuxiemeguerremondia.forumactif. ... r-t824.htm
Ordre de bataille au 8 juin 1941 - VICHY
Armée de l'air
Groupes de Chasse
G.C. III/6 Dewoitine 520 : 25 Rayack (Liban)
G.C. I/7 Morane 406 : 12 Alep-Nerab (Syrie) + 6 Estabel (Liban)
Groupes de Bombardement
G.B. I/39 Glenn-Martin 167 F : 10 Rayack (Liban) + 2 Madjaloun (Liban)
E.B. 3/39 Bloch MB 200 : 6 Madjaloun (Liban)
Groupes de Reconnaissance / Observation
G.R. II/39 Potez 63.11 : 12 Damas-Mezzé (Syrie)
G.A.O. 583 Potez 63.11 : 5 Alep-Nerab (Syrie)
E.O. 592 Potez 25TOE : 6 Rayack (Lebanon)
E.O. 593 Potez 25TOE : 6 Alep-Nerab (Syrie)
E.O. 594 Potez 25TOE : 6 Damas-Mezzé (Syrie)
E.O. 595 Potez 25TOE : 6 Palmyre (Syrie)
E.O. 596 Potez 25TOE : 4 Deir ez-Zor (Syrie)
Escadrilles de l'Aéronautique Navale
Esc. 19S Loire 130 : 5 Tripoli (Liban)
Marine
2 DD : Valmy , Guepard ( Beyrout )
3 S/M : Souffleur , ? , ? ( Beyrout )
quelques petits navires ( 1 patrouilleur , 1 corvette ? - A VERIFIER )
Armée de Terre
Infanterie
-6e REI ( Homs ) ( 4bns+3 batteries d'artillerie de la legion )
-24e RMIC(Tripoli )(3bns)
-22e RTA(Liban )(3bns)
-29e RTA(Liban )(3bns)
-16e RTT(Syrie du sud )(3bns)
-17e RTS(Syrie du sud )(3bns)
-1e RTM ( Syrie ) ( uniquement le Ve Bn ))
- 3 Bns de Chasseurs Libanais ( Liban )
- 8 Bns du Levant (Syrie )
Cavalerie
-4e RST (Liban )
-1e RSM (Syrie )
-8e RSA (Liban )
-50 escadrons de cavalerie irreguliere ( druzes , libanais , kurdes etc ) regroupés en 4 groupes d'escadrons de ligne , 6 groupes d'escadrons Druzes et 8 escadrons Circassiens/Tcherkesses ) ( tous en syrie )
-3 Cies meharistes ( Syrie )
Blindés
-6e RCA ( 45 R35 ) 2 esc chars + 2 esc automitrailleuses ( Liban )
-7e RCA ( 45 R35 ) 2 esc chars + 2 esc automitrailleuses ( Syrie )
Artillerie
- RAC Levant ( Liban )
- 1e RAM ( Syrie )
- Groupe d'Alepp ( Syrie )
Ordre de bataille au 8 juin 1941 - Forces Franco-Anglo-Australo-Indiennes
Force "Gent"
Commandant ; General Legentilhomme
Chef d'etat major : lt-Col Koenig
Cie QG50 : Cap Bélan
-1e Bde FFL ( Col cazaud )
1e Bataillon de Légion Etrangère : Commandant Amilakvary
Bataillon de Marche n°1 : Commandant Delange
Bataillon de Marche n°3 : Commandant Garbay
-2e Bde FFL ( Col Génin )
1e Bataillon d'Infanterie de Marine : Commandant de Chevigné
Bataillon de Marche n°2 : Commandant de Roux
Bataillon de Marche n°4 : Commandant Bouillon
1e Bataillon de Fusiliers Marins : Capitaine Corv. Détroyat
1e Batterie Artillerie : Capitaine Laurent-Champrosay
1e Esc. Spahis.Marocains : Capitaine Jourdier
1e Cie de Chars ( et motards ) Capitaine Volvey
Section de Sapeurs-Mineurs : Lieutenant Desmaisons
- Groupe d'escadrons Tcherkesses : Colonel Collet ( 453h)
-1e Cie Transmissions : Capitaine Renard
-101e Cie Auto : Lieutenant Dulau
-Intendance : Intendant Bouton
-Gr. Exploitation : Lieutenant de Guillebon
-Service de Santé : Méd.Cap. Delavenne
-Ambulance chirurgicale : Méd.Cdt Vernier
-Hôpital de campagne : Hadfield-Spears Méd.Cdt Fruchaud
- 5e Bde Indienne ( General Lloyd )
1st Royal Fusiliers
4/6th Rajputana Rifles
3/1st Punjab Rifles
1st Field Regiment, Royal Artillery:
9th Field Battery, Royal Artillery
11th Field Battery, Royal Artillery
171th Light Anti-Aircraft Battery
18th Company, Royal Bombay Sappers and Miners
-2 bns britanniques- A IDENTIFIER
-Un Escadron des Royal Dragoons (en automitrailleuses) .numero non specifié - A IDENTIFIER
-Un Bataillon d'infanterie Australien - A IDENTIFIER , probablement le 2/25
-Une Compagnie lourde de mitrailleuses Australienne -2/3rd Australian Machine-Gun Battalion
-Un Escadron de Scouts Australien (automitrailleuses) -6th Australian Divisional Cavalry Regiment (light tanks)
-Un groupe d'artillerie Britannique- A IDENTIFIER
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7th Australian Division ( Major-General J D Lavarack)
-25th Australian Infantry Brigade
2/25th Battalion
2/31st Battalion
2/33rd Battalion
-21st Australian Infantry Brigade:
2/14th Battalion
2/16th Battalion
2/27th Battalion
-2/3rd Australian Machine-Gun Battalion ( moins 1 Cie )
-2/2nd Pioneers
-2/4th Australian Field Regiment
-2/5th Australian Field Regiment
-2/6th Australian Field Regiment
-2/2nd Antitank Regiment: 6th AT battery et 7th AT Battery
-170th Light Anti-Aircraft battery
-6th Australian Divisional Cavalry Regiment (light tanks) ( moins 1 sqd )
-2/5th Field Company, Royal Australian Engineers
-2/6th Field Company, Royal Australian Engineers
-2/5th Field Park Company, Royal Australian Engineers
-9th Australian Divisional Cavalry Regiment .
Forces aeriennes
No. 11 Squadron Blenheim IV
No. 80 Squadron Hurricanes
No. 3 R.A.A.F. Squadron Tomahawks
No. 208 Army Co-operation Sq. Hurricanes
X Flight Gladiators
detachement du 815 Sq., Swordfish
No. 84 Squadron Blenheim
Presents mais non assignés a Exporter
803 Squadron, Fulmars
829 Squadron, Swordfish/Albacore
Forces navales
Force B:
Croiseurs legers Phoebe et Ajax
Destroyers Kandahar , Kimberley , Jackal , Janus
Force C:
Croiseur AA Coventry
Transport d'assaut Glengyle
Destroyers Ilex , Isis , Hotspur , Hero
Source:
http://deuxiemeguerremondia.forumactif. ... r-t824.htm
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Some Vichy photos here: http://www.ecpad.fr/les-forces-francais ... e-de-syrie
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From Time-Life.
Beirut 1940
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Same source.
FFL Marines,July 1941
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Re: French orbat Syria 1941.
In June 1941, 3 french submarines of the 9e DSM (Submarine Division) were based in Syria : Caiman, Souffleur and Marsouin.
The 9, Caiman was seriously grenaded. At 12:48 pm, Souffleur was detected on surface (charging batteries) and sinked by HMS Parthian with 4 torpedoes.
Here’s a picture of the poor Souffleur.
The 9, Caiman was seriously grenaded. At 12:48 pm, Souffleur was detected on surface (charging batteries) and sinked by HMS Parthian with 4 torpedoes.
Here’s a picture of the poor Souffleur.
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Re: French orbat Syria 1941.
hello,
about the 5 men with a coastal artillery fixed gun we can recognize that they belong to the Navy, they are sailors, not Marines
about the 5 men with a coastal artillery fixed gun we can recognize that they belong to the Navy, they are sailors, not Marines