SS-Oberführer Adolf Ax
SS-Oberführer Adolf Ax
I've a question about Adolf Ax, it concerns some date.
On 25-4-1940 he got promoted to SS-Stubaf
From December 1940 till the end of October 1941 he was commander of III. Bataillon
with SS-Infanterie-Regiment 11.
Between December 1941 and 11-3-1942 he was laying in hospital because of serious problems
with his sinus.
But, J. Moore's Wiking officerslist, http://www.geocities.com/~orion47/SS-PO ... ngDiv.html ,
gives him on 9-41 as commander from III. Bataillon with 'Germania'. And if I'm not mistaken this means the
III. Bataillon from SS-Infanterie-Regiment 'Germania' within SS-Division(mot.)'Wiking'.
Can someone clear this up and shed more light on this time-frame???
And the SS-Infanterie-Regiment 11 was at that time a part of the SS-Division(mot.)'Reich', or am I wrong????
Tahnks,
Mike
On 25-4-1940 he got promoted to SS-Stubaf
From December 1940 till the end of October 1941 he was commander of III. Bataillon
with SS-Infanterie-Regiment 11.
Between December 1941 and 11-3-1942 he was laying in hospital because of serious problems
with his sinus.
But, J. Moore's Wiking officerslist, http://www.geocities.com/~orion47/SS-PO ... ngDiv.html ,
gives him on 9-41 as commander from III. Bataillon with 'Germania'. And if I'm not mistaken this means the
III. Bataillon from SS-Infanterie-Regiment 'Germania' within SS-Division(mot.)'Wiking'.
Can someone clear this up and shed more light on this time-frame???
And the SS-Infanterie-Regiment 11 was at that time a part of the SS-Division(mot.)'Reich', or am I wrong????
Tahnks,
Mike
He was Kdr III/SS Inf Reg 11 11.1.41 - 27.10.1941 The Regiment was disolved 27.10.41 withn its manpower going to Deutchsland and Der Führer . Ax was officially shown as commander until 4,.1.1942 in his records. He was ill with sinus trouble being hospitalised in Berlin until 11 March 1942. When released he was shown as fit for garrison duty only and took commander of SS Panzerjäger-Ausbildungs-und Ersatzabteilung in Hilversum 15.4.42 - 18.7.42. Attached a pic of him with Demelhuber look at the names on the board.
Phil Nix
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Phil wrote:
And I did read about the fact that the regiment was disolved and its manpower going to the other two Regiments from
the 'Das Reich' Division.
About the names on the board, if I've read it correctly it says:
SS-Ostuf Schröder
SS-Ustuf Zetina or Zetins
SS-Ostuf Schwarzkopf
SS-Ustuf Kropp
Did these fellows served in the SS-Pz.-Jg.-AuE-Abt. when Ax was in command????
Greetings,
Mike
So as far as I can see he could never have been commander of III./'Germania' in September 1941????!!!!!!He was Kdr III/SS Inf Reg 11 11.1.41 - 27.10.1941 The Regiment was disolved 27.10.41 withn its manpower going to Deutchsland and Der Führer .
And I did read about the fact that the regiment was disolved and its manpower going to the other two Regiments from
the 'Das Reich' Division.
This is something I didn't know, thanks for letting me know.Ax was officially shown as commander until 4,.1.1942 in his records.
So this is correct what I've written down, thanks for the confirmation.He was ill with sinus trouble being hospitalised in Berlin until 11 March 1942.
This is what I've as well, so that part of my file is also correct.When released he was shown as fit for garrison duty only and took commander of SS Panzerjäger-Ausbildungs-und Ersatzabteilung in Hilversum 15.4.42 - 18.7.42.
Thanks for sharing this picture Phil, is a pretty nice one.Attached a pic of him with Demelhuber look at the names on the board.
About the names on the board, if I've read it correctly it says:
SS-Ostuf Schröder
SS-Ustuf Zetina or Zetins
SS-Ostuf Schwarzkopf
SS-Ustuf Kropp
Did these fellows served in the SS-Pz.-Jg.-AuE-Abt. when Ax was in command????
Greetings,
Mike
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I have a copy of a letter dated 17.01.1944 and signed by SS-Ogruf. August Heissmeyer indicating that Ax received the Nahkampfspange II. Stufe (Silber) on 15.07.1943 and the Verwundetenabzeichen in Silber on 17.11.1942. He wears neither award in any photo I've seen, and they are not indicated in his SS file. Also, no indication of any wound badge award in the 09.11.1944 SS-Dienstalterliste. Can anyone confirm of positively deny that he got these awards?
Best wishes / thanks in advance,
~ Mike
Best wishes / thanks in advance,
~ Mike
Hello Michael,
As you know I don't have documents of any kind so I can only tell what I've in my files, which is compiled from
things I've found on this forum and/or on the internet. I've written down he received the Ritterkreuz and the
Deutsches Kreuz in Gold.
I also checked 'Die Personen-Lexikon der NSDAP' and they have the following awards on him:
Totenkopfring der SS.
Ehrendegen des RF SS
1939 EK II(27-5-40)
1939 EK I(24-7-40)
KVK1ms(30-1-44)
Ritterkreuz(5-45)
Länderauszeichnungen
So no sign of the awards you're mentioning, although this doesn't mean anything. The part of 'Die Personen-Lexikon der NSDAP' that I've have(SS-Führer A & B' is far from complete. Still, they did gather the info on Ax amongst others from the Dienstalterliste der Schutzstaffel der NSDAP(30-1-44), the Dienstalterliste der Waffen-SS(1-7-44)and the Dienstalterliste der Schutzstaffel der NSDAP(9-11-44).
Greetings,
Mike
As you know I don't have documents of any kind so I can only tell what I've in my files, which is compiled from
things I've found on this forum and/or on the internet. I've written down he received the Ritterkreuz and the
Deutsches Kreuz in Gold.
I also checked 'Die Personen-Lexikon der NSDAP' and they have the following awards on him:
Totenkopfring der SS.
Ehrendegen des RF SS
1939 EK II(27-5-40)
1939 EK I(24-7-40)
KVK1ms(30-1-44)
Ritterkreuz(5-45)
Länderauszeichnungen
So no sign of the awards you're mentioning, although this doesn't mean anything. The part of 'Die Personen-Lexikon der NSDAP' that I've have(SS-Führer A & B' is far from complete. Still, they did gather the info on Ax amongst others from the Dienstalterliste der Schutzstaffel der NSDAP(30-1-44), the Dienstalterliste der Waffen-SS(1-7-44)and the Dienstalterliste der Schutzstaffel der NSDAP(9-11-44).
Greetings,
Mike
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Here are the awards I've found (included are the unconfirmed NKSiS and VA in Silber); I've not found him on any listing of DKiG recipients:
Adolf Ax
SS-Oberführer der Waffen-SS
* 23.06.1906 in Mouscron / Province de Hainaut, Belgium.
+ 06.02.1983 in Wiesbaden / Hessen.
NSDAP-Nr.: 378 043 (Joined 01.12.1930)
SS-Nr.: 3 848 (Joined 29.10.1930)
Promotions:
29.10.1930 SS-Anwärter
01.02.1931 SS-Mann
20.11.1931 SS-Truppführer
27.01.1932 SS-Sturmführer
09.11.1933 SS-Obersturmführer
09.11.1936 SS-Hauptsturmführer
25.05.1940 SS-Sturmbannführer der Waffen-SS
09.11.1942 SS-Obersturmbannführer der Waffen-SS
22.11.1943 SS-Standartenführer der Waffen-SS (mit Wirkung vom 09.11.1943)
21.12.1944 SS-Oberführer der Waffen-SS
Decorations & Awards:
08.05.1945 Ritterkreuz des Eisernen Kreuzes as SS-Oberführer, Chef des Generalstabes Führungsstab Ostküste, and Fhr. 15.Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS (lettische Nr. 1) / XVIII.Gebirgs-Korps / 2.Armee / Heeresgruppe Weichsel, Eastern Front (based on a
recommendation dated 28.03.1945 and signed by Korps Kom. Gen. Karl-Maria Demelhuber)
24.07.1940 1939 Eisernes Kreuz I. Klasse
27.05.1940 1939 Eisernes Kreuz II. Klasse
30.01.1944 Kriegsverdienstkreuz I. Klasse mit Schwertern
00.00.1942 Kriegsverdienstkreuz II. Klasse mit Schwertern
15.07.1943 Nahkampfspange II. Stufe (Silber)(according to letter dated 17.01.1944 from SS-Obergruppenführer und General der Polizei August Heissmeyer; award not indicated in his SS file, nor in the SS-Dienstalterliste of 09.11.1944)
17.11.1942 Verwundetenabzeichen, 1939 in Silber (according to 17.01.1944 letter referenced above; award not indicated in his SS file, nor in the SS-Dienstalterliste of 09.11.1944)
00.00.1942 Medaille “Winterschlacht im Osten 1941/42”
20.04.1939 Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 13. März 1938
01.06.1939 Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 1. Oktober 1938
00.00.193_ Abzeichen des SA-Treffens Braunschweig 1931
00.00.19__ Deutsches Reichssportabzeichen in Bronze
00.00.19__ SA-Sportabzeichen in Bronze
00.00.19__ Ehrendegen des Reichsführers-SS
00.00.19__ Totenkopfring der SS
00.00.19__ SS-Zivilabzeichen (Nr. 2 152)
00.00.19__ Julleuchter der SS
00.00.193_ Ehrenwinkel für alte Kämpfer
Best,
~ Mike
Adolf Ax
SS-Oberführer der Waffen-SS
* 23.06.1906 in Mouscron / Province de Hainaut, Belgium.
+ 06.02.1983 in Wiesbaden / Hessen.
NSDAP-Nr.: 378 043 (Joined 01.12.1930)
SS-Nr.: 3 848 (Joined 29.10.1930)
Promotions:
29.10.1930 SS-Anwärter
01.02.1931 SS-Mann
20.11.1931 SS-Truppführer
27.01.1932 SS-Sturmführer
09.11.1933 SS-Obersturmführer
09.11.1936 SS-Hauptsturmführer
25.05.1940 SS-Sturmbannführer der Waffen-SS
09.11.1942 SS-Obersturmbannführer der Waffen-SS
22.11.1943 SS-Standartenführer der Waffen-SS (mit Wirkung vom 09.11.1943)
21.12.1944 SS-Oberführer der Waffen-SS
Decorations & Awards:
08.05.1945 Ritterkreuz des Eisernen Kreuzes as SS-Oberführer, Chef des Generalstabes Führungsstab Ostküste, and Fhr. 15.Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS (lettische Nr. 1) / XVIII.Gebirgs-Korps / 2.Armee / Heeresgruppe Weichsel, Eastern Front (based on a
recommendation dated 28.03.1945 and signed by Korps Kom. Gen. Karl-Maria Demelhuber)
24.07.1940 1939 Eisernes Kreuz I. Klasse
27.05.1940 1939 Eisernes Kreuz II. Klasse
30.01.1944 Kriegsverdienstkreuz I. Klasse mit Schwertern
00.00.1942 Kriegsverdienstkreuz II. Klasse mit Schwertern
15.07.1943 Nahkampfspange II. Stufe (Silber)(according to letter dated 17.01.1944 from SS-Obergruppenführer und General der Polizei August Heissmeyer; award not indicated in his SS file, nor in the SS-Dienstalterliste of 09.11.1944)
17.11.1942 Verwundetenabzeichen, 1939 in Silber (according to 17.01.1944 letter referenced above; award not indicated in his SS file, nor in the SS-Dienstalterliste of 09.11.1944)
00.00.1942 Medaille “Winterschlacht im Osten 1941/42”
20.04.1939 Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 13. März 1938
01.06.1939 Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 1. Oktober 1938
00.00.193_ Abzeichen des SA-Treffens Braunschweig 1931
00.00.19__ Deutsches Reichssportabzeichen in Bronze
00.00.19__ SA-Sportabzeichen in Bronze
00.00.19__ Ehrendegen des Reichsführers-SS
00.00.19__ Totenkopfring der SS
00.00.19__ SS-Zivilabzeichen (Nr. 2 152)
00.00.19__ Julleuchter der SS
00.00.193_ Ehrenwinkel für alte Kämpfer
Best,
~ Mike
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Mikedc and anyone else who this might apply to - You are quoting from information that is nearly 10 years old that has not been updated or corrected. While that was the best information that was available to me when these "lists" were first produced as working papers and not for posting on someone's Web site, this data has been significantly improved upon in recent years after gaining possesion of a complete set of personnel records on over 900 rolls of NARA microfilm together with data from other credible sources. Quite a bit of erroneous information came from books or old veterans' magazines who did not have access to such period documents at the time of publication. Therefore, I have asked Mike Miller to immediately remove these files from his Web site in order to avoid any further confusion.
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Hello John,
I guess this is a wise descision, it leeds to confusion for sure.
But not for everything, with most of the info is nothing wrong, it's only with a very small part.
I've been always very gratefull with finding all this info on the net.
And hell, even books that are 10 years old can contain wrong or not completed information.
I have 'Die Personen-Lexikon der NSDAP' and even there are things not always correct or complete.
So don't blame yourself too much for having this stuff still on the internet, without all your great work
in the past(and in the present)it wouldn't have been that easy for starters like myself.
Mike
I guess this is a wise descision, it leeds to confusion for sure.
But not for everything, with most of the info is nothing wrong, it's only with a very small part.
I've been always very gratefull with finding all this info on the net.
And hell, even books that are 10 years old can contain wrong or not completed information.
I have 'Die Personen-Lexikon der NSDAP' and even there are things not always correct or complete.
So don't blame yourself too much for having this stuff still on the internet, without all your great work
in the past(and in the present)it wouldn't have been that easy for starters like myself.
Mike
The names are participants in a shooting contest open to all serving in Holland.Phil Nix wrote:He was Kdr III/SS Inf Reg 11 11.1.41 - 27.10.1941 The Regiment was disolved 27.10.41 withn its manpower going to Deutchsland and Der Führer . Ax was officially shown as commander until 4,.1.1942 in his records. He was ill with sinus trouble being hospitalised in Berlin until 11 March 1942. When released he was shown as fit for garrison duty only and took commander of SS Panzerjäger-Ausbildungs-und Ersatzabteilung in Hilversum 15.4.42 - 18.7.42. Attached a pic of him with Demelhuber look at the names on the board.
Phil Nix
Phil Nix