320mm spigot mortar

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320mm spigot mortar

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Post by Peter H » 04 Jul 2007, 09:53

Only encountered at Iwo Jima and Okinawa?

http://www.nps.gov/archive/wapa/indepth ... 0/sec5.htm
One of the unique Japanese weapons that Marines encountered on Iwo Jima was the 320mm spigot mortar. These enormous defensive weapons were emplaced and operated by the Japanese Army's 20th Independent Mortar Battalion.

The mortar tube, which had a small cavity at the muzzle, rested on a steel baseplate which, in turn, was supported by a wooden platform. Unlike a conventional mortar, the five-foot long projectile was placed over the tube instead of being dropped down the barrel. The mortar shell had a diameter of nearly 13 inches, while the mortar tube was little more than 10 inches wide. The weapon could hurl a 675-pound shell a maximum of 1,440 yards. The range was adjusted by varying the powder charge, while changes in deflection were accomplished by brute force: shoving and pushing the base platform.

Although the tubes only held out for five or six rounds, enough shells were lobbed onto Marine positions to make a lasting impression on those who suffered through that campaign. According to a platoon leader who served with the 28th Marines, the spigot mortar (referred to as "the screaming Jesus" in his unit) was always afforded a healthy respect and, along with the eight-inch Japanese naval rocket, remains one of his most vivid memories of Iwo Jima. General Robert E. Cushman, Jr., who commanded the 2d battalion, 9th Marines, at Iwo Jima and went on to become the 25th Commandant of the Marine Corps, recalled that the tumbling projectile's inaccuracy made it that much more terrifying. "You could see it coming," he said, "but you never knew where the hell it was going to come down."

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What was "the eight-inch Japanese naval rocket"?


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Post by tom! » 04 Jul 2007, 11:18

Hi.
Peter H wrote:What was "the eight-inch Japanese naval rocket"?
The IJN developed various rocket types. For a short overview see

USNTMJ report on IJN rockets

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Post by Peter H » 04 Jul 2007, 12:42

Thanks Tom.

I assume these rockets were fired from land.

All I can find at Iwo Jima was the Rocket Gun Company under Captain Yoshio Yokoyama but this was an Army unit.Other source states three companies,150-220 men.

Something like 70 rocket guns were on Iwo Jima?

http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USMC/US ... ima-1.html
In addition to previously mentioned weapons, there were at least three different rocket-propelled projectiles. The largest was a 250kg (550-pound) bomb, less tail assembly, with rocket motor attached. Fired from a launching trough 22 feet long, it had a range of better than 7,500 yards. Similar, but smaller, was the 63kg bomb with rocket motor. Launching troughs for this projectile were from 13 to 15 feet in length, and its maximum range was about 2,000 yards.

The navy had a spin-stabilized 8-inch rocket weighing about 200 pounds with a range of 2,000 to 3,000 yards. This projectile was converted from a naval 200mm shell by cutting it off forward of the rotating band and threading it to receive a base plate and rocket motor. It was fired from a stovepipe-like barrel mounted on a steel carriage equipped with two wheels, giving it mobility. The three army rocket companies on Iwo were probably equipped with the 63kg rocket-propelled bombs.
"Wooden Rocket Launcher"
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Post by Peter H » 04 Jul 2007, 12:53

Type 4 200mm Rocket

From: http://www.pacificwrecks.com/

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Rocket battery attached to the Ogasawara Corps / Commander Lt. General Tadamichi Kuribayashi on Iwo Jima. This battery fired upon US Marines landing February 19, 1942 inflicting heavy casualties on them. After expending all their rockets, they fought with captured weapons to the last man. Though inferior to howitzers or guns in terms of accuracy or range, it was easy to carry, and the rocket powered by solid fuel.

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Post by Akira Takizawa » 04 Jul 2007, 13:27

> Taki's page says also used at Saipan?

It's my mistake. 32cm Spigot Mortar was not used on Saipan.

Spigot mortar unit was sent to Saipan. But, their ship sank and they lost their all mortars.

> What was "the eight-inch Japanese naval rocket"?

It is IJN 20cm Rocket. I uploaded the photo of IJN 20cm Rocket Launcher captured on Iwo Jima.


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Post by Peter H » 04 Jul 2007, 15:14

Thanks Taki.

Were the Type 98 used at Bataan in 1942?

http://www3.plala.or.jp/takihome/artillery_history.html
The consumption of the shells during the battle of Bataan is as follows:

Type 98 32cm Spigot Mortars - 175 rounds
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Post by Akira Takizawa » 04 Jul 2007, 16:40

Peter H wrote:Were the Type 98 used at Bataan in 1942?
Yes. The philippines I mentioned in Type 98 page means Bataan.

Besides them, Type 98 Spigot Mortar was used in the battle of Imphal. One mortar and two shells were transported beyond the mountains of Arakan and it fired at Kohima.

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Post by Peter H » 05 Jul 2007, 04:31

Interesting.

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Post by Peter H » 06 Jul 2007, 02:43

Eastwood's movie shows one being fired off.

I assume this is Hollywood fantasy--they wouldn't have a rocket like trail of flame.


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Post by tom! » 06 Jul 2007, 10:22

Hi.

Well, the flame trail is not impossible.

The type 98 320 mm grenade consisted of a warhead, a propulsion unit and a long finned pipe as tail.

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The grenade was assembled on a smaler pipe mounted on a heavy wooden base.

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After firing the propellant gases filled the inner pipe throwing the grenade away. It seems very possible that the propellant caused a fire trail. Here is a pic from a US ordnance test showing at least a smoke trail:

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source: Waffen Revue issue 98 page 79 ff.

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Post by Peter H » 06 Jul 2007, 15:03

Great tom

As the old saying goes--where's there's smoke,there's fire.Eastwood might have got it right then.

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Post by Peter H » 07 Jul 2007, 04:55

Also used at Singapore 1942.

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Re: 320mm spigot mortar

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Post by fisher972002 » 17 Jul 2008, 17:53

These were mentioned by my Great uncle who was a radioman for I company, 3rd Batallion, 383 Inf Regiment, 96th INF. Their first contact with what they called "Buzz bombs" THe shells were 320 mm (about 12.5 inches) and fired from a spigot mortar. THey carried several hundred pounds of explosive but were not designed to throw a lot of shrapnel, like a typical mortar and artillery shells. If they landed in soft ground like the rice paddies we were in, they made a big hole, but most of the explosive force was muffled by the dirt. However, as we found out later, if they landed in a rocky area they threw rocks like shrapnel and were very dangerous. Depending on the texture of the ground where they landed, they could make a hole about 30-40 feet across and 10-15 feet deep. These spigot mortars were used eextensively around KAKAZU but later in the campaign we didn't see much of them. I think the JAPS realized that their greatest effectiveness occurred when they could land the shells into rocky areas. Because of the size, and accompanying weight of hte spigot mortar itself, they must have been very cumbersome to move around and probably were used only in those areas where they had been emplaced before we landed. The accuracy was not very good, so the greatest damage would occur when they could catch us huddled up in rock areas. I don't think there were any casualties from the many shells they fired at us on the night of April 8th, 1945 at Okinawa.

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