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Kaarlo Edvard Kivekäs

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Post by davlat » 26 Jan 2013, 23:32

Juha Tompuri wrote:Correct and well done, Nigel!

My source was a Finnish book Rannikkotykistön vuosikirja VII (Coastal Artillery Yearbook VII) from year 1942.
Kivekäs also being grandfather of a fried of mine.

Your turn next.

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Greetings,
I have interest to biography of Kaarlo Edvard Kivekäs (1866-1940). Please help me with information about him, he was great man, he did lot of good things for people of Pamir mountains when he was there in 1905 - 1908.
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Post by Juha Tompuri » 27 Jan 2013, 13:00

Hi Davlat, and welcome to the Forum.
Kaarlo Edvard Kivekäs. He was born 6th Dec 1866 at (Kouvola) Finland, served imperial Russian Army for years (very interasting career: 9 years as some sort of governor of Pamir etc) General Major 1916, 1917 joined Ukrainian army, returned home July 1918.
Do you (or anybody else) know more about his military career before July 1918?
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... it#p359781

I'll try to post more in the near future.
Could yo tell us more about his career at the Pamir area?

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Post by CanKiwi2 » 28 Jan 2013, 00:54

Picked up this from http://www.helsinki.fi/ylioppilasmatrik ... p?id=22013 - Yo Hlinnan norm.lys. Hk-yo →1888. Käynyt Haminan kadettik. Turkestanin vuoritykistöpatterin aliluutn. 1890, yleni Venäjän armeijassa kenraalimajuriksi 1916, viim. divisioonan komentaja 1917

Seems that he commanded a Mountain Artillery Unit in Turkestan from 1890.

Also see this link - http://www.kansallisbiografia.fi/kenraalit/?gid=205 - rough translation (done using google so it IS very rough) below. Did not have time to tidy up the translation and figure out the bits that did not translate

Kivekäs (Backman), Karl Edward

lieutenant general - S 06/12/1866 Valkeala, K Hämeenlinna 19.2.1940

Parents - the owner, merchant Carl Backman and Henry's daughter Maria Henrika Karén.

Spouse (s) and their parents P1 Elizaveta Viktorovna Medinskaja. P1 V Major General Viktor Julianovitš Medinski and Baroness Natalia Silfverhjelm S, 1842, or 1882 in New Maryland, Alaska. P2 Tashkent, Turkestan, General Government, Russia 10.10.1910: Natalia Jantzyn S 31/10/1879, Kokand, General Government of Turkestan, Russia. P2 V Major General Nikolai and Anna Jantzyn Jantzyn.

Children
adoptive daughter from 1917 Gulj Begim, baptism, Olga S 05.14.1902. Afghan Barakat and his wife shugnanilaisen Binazirin daughter.

Career

Karl Edvard Kivekäs matriculated at the Hämeenlinna Normal Lyceum 05/31/1886. He was inducted into the military academy student in Finland Hamina 22/07/1886. After graduating from the cadet school Kivekäs was promoted to second lieutenant and was assigned to the service of Turkestan separate vuoritykistöpatteriin riding on 10.08.1890. Kivekäs was 19.3. - 02.05.1893 commanded Gultsan Altaivuoristoon fort forming a Cossack taistelupuolipatteria. Kivekäs was 2.5. - 08.20.1893 Pamir turn a number of separate taistelurakettijaoksen manager and was then seconded Pamiriin Sadzanskin tykistöjaokseen 20.8. - 16.09.1893, as well as riding the mountain artillery battery Pamir interactive set of Altai reserve section 16.9. - 02.10.1893. After returning to riding on a separate Turkestan vuoritykistöpatteriin Kivekäs was assigned to the radiator training the municipal head of 02.10.1893 and 15.06.1894 was promoted to Lieutenant.

In the period 1896 - 1899 was a junior officer in the Kivekäs Pamir interactive set of kasakkasotniassa 05/08/1896 - 05/18/1897, and re-formed Pamir shift commander, as well as a number of Pamir sotamaaherrana 05/18/1897 - 12/09/1899. He was promoted to alikapteeniksi 23/04/1898. The preparation of the Fergana war at the behest of the governor's report Pamir interaction forces with 1897 - 1899 Kivekäs returned to the service of Turkestan separate vuoritykistöpatteriin riding on 24.12.1899. Kivekäs mountain artillery battery served as Financial Manager 21.2. - 23/08/1901, Pamir shift manager in a number of 23.8.1901 - 30.8.1902, a mountain artillery battery senior officer in 24.10. - 16.11.1902, as well as mountain artillery battery of the Economic and training municipal manager 16/11/1902 - 10/01/1904. He was promoted to captain of 08/25/1902. Kivekäs its mountain artillery battery va. Manager 01/10/1904 - 01/20/1905 and the Pamir turn as Department Manager 20/01/1905 - 12/02/1906. He was promoted to lieutenant colonel 27/09/1905 and was assigned to the emperor's command 12/02/1906 Turkestan military district commander from the forces entered riding on a field artillery officer in the lists. Kivekäs Turkestan was appointed a separate riding mountain artillery battery commander 18/06/1908. He was promoted to colonel and transferred to 2 riding on a field artillery regiment commander in Lithuania 08.31.1910, after which he moved to 1 mountain artillery regiment commander of 27/11/1913.

During the First World War, at the beginning of Kivekäs regiment fought in North West Germany, at the front, as well as the south-western front of Austria 11.04.1914 - 24.09.1915. He was ordered to 21.12.1915 Odessa Military District Administration Head of artillery to set up 113 field artillery brigades, which he served as commander of 09/03/1916 - 09/24/1917. He fought brigades of Austrian troops Galicia, Zoloto Lipa River, Tsenjovkajoella and participated in the drive and vetäytymistaisteluihin Brezeznain city of 28.07.1916 - 07.14.1917. Kivekäs was promoted to Major-General 23.09.1916, and he was 41 Army Corps va. head of the artillery until 24/09/1917. He was transferred to 113 09/24/1917 infantry division commander, who fought Brezeznain town and village in the area Zborysevin 1.10. - 27.11.1917. 113. Infantry Division was transferred to the Ukrainian government side, and General Kivekäs served as commander of the battle against the Bolsheviks Dubnon, Zdolbunovon and Rovno urban areas Volyniassa 12/16/1917 - 04/03/1918. Kivekäs resigned from the service of the Russian Army 113 infantry division after demobilization, and returned to the Odessa Finland through 07/26/1918.

Kivekäs was entered as a Major General of the Finnish army officer to the list of permanent crew 08/05/1918, after which he served as commander of the vartiopataljoonien 5.8. - 10/10/1918, coastal artillery commander 10/10/1918 - 02/02/1919, and 02/02/1919 from artillery inspector. Kivekäs its own role, but also the Acting Chief of Staff. chief of staff of 17.6. - 18.07.1919 and the Finnish army vt. Supreme Commander of 18.7. - 09.12.1919. He was ordered to 12.09.1919 coastal defense artillery inspector and the inspector's role was released 05.05.1920. Kivekäs the castle was transferred to Finland 03/07/1925 vt. the commandant of the garrison and the Helsinki vt. Manager. He was awarded a distinction from military service rank of Lieutenant General 30.08.1928, after which he served as yet from 1929 to 1932 the Ministry of Defence Ordnance Department va. palkkiotoimisena ammunition inspector.

Honor and badges: VenSt 3 14/05/1896; Alexander III's reign hop. mm. 11.12.1896; Central Asian military expeditions blond pr. mm. 11/05/1897; Buhr silver star 1 16/07/1898; Vena 3 24/09/1900; Buhr gold star 3 05/01/1901; TanskDR R 06/27/1901; VenSt 2 08/14/1903; VenVl 4 16/04/1907; Romanov dynasty 300-year jubilee celebration blond pr. mm. 21/02/1913; Patriotic War 1812 blond pr. 100 vuotismm. 26/09/1913; VenVl 3 12/06/1913; Vena 2 mk. 02/06/1915; VenVl Add note 4. 05/09/1915; VenSt 2 mk. 09/15/1915; VenVl 3 mk. 10.10.1915; stretching weapon URH. 02/11/1915; VenSt 1 rtmk. 03/01/1917; Vena 1 rtr. mk. 07/14/1917; SVR KI 18/07/1919; RanskKL K 10/08/1921; PuolPR K 29/03/1922; VirPR culture. Star 05.04.1923; VirVR I / 2 25/05/1923; LatvLR R ​​07/04/1924; RuotsMR K 1 8/21/1925; TanskDR K 1 5/24/1928; Latvia vs. 10-vuotismm. 26/01/1930.
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Post by Seppo Koivisto » 28 Jan 2013, 23:43

2.5. - 20.8.1893 Kivekäs was the commander of separate battle rocket section of Pamir mountain troops(?)

Oh, those Russians!
From 1866 to 1881, the Russians used a two inch diameter,
ten pound Hale rocket fired from rocket tube tripods called
"rocket stands".
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... 87/MAF.htm

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 09 Apr 2014, 18:57

A friend of mine has written a detailed article (in finnish) about Kivekäs at the new Rannikon Puolustaja (Coastal Defender) magazine:
http://www.rannikonpuolustaja.fi/archive/rp_114/ pages 77-79

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 12 Dec 2014, 21:52

A sword of Kivekäs was sold at an auction at Stockholm about a year ago:
http://www.probusauktioner.se/img/v2013 ... ag_lay.pdf page 5.


SA photos 47626- 47643 Finnish embassy workers from Moscow have arrived to Helsinki after a several month's journey under quite hard conditions.
The adopted daughter of General Kivekäs at far left, and her husband-to-be at far right:
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Post by Juha Tompuri » 03 Jan 2015, 15:43

Swing wrote:Regarding Hale rockets:
In 1850 English merchant Nottingham offered Russian government the secret of Hale missile production and instructions on their use. Price: 30 thousands pounds. This was the second attempt of Nottingham. Soon in St. Petersburg began tests Hale vs Konstantinov. The advantage of Konstantinov's missiles was so obvious in terms of accuracy, and the Nottingham's proposal was rejected.
Two years earlier Konstantinov tested Congreve rockets an it's manufacture and blocked idea of it's use in Russia.
In 1851 and 1852 in Russia were released 2700 missiles per year, in 1853 - 4000 missiles, in 1854 - 10488, in 1855 - 5870 missiles. There were only Konstantinov's rockets. Therefore, statement about Hale missiles in the Pamir seems doubtful. Like "Popov's radio in US Army" :)
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 2#p1919090

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Post by Swing » 03 Jan 2015, 16:23

Two photos:
1. Kaarlo Edvard Kivekäs
2. Kivekäs and his adopted daughter Gulberim (1914)
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Post by Swing » 04 Jan 2015, 09:31

A detailed article (in Finnish) about Kivekäs at the "Inkeri" newspaper №2, 2014 by davlat

http://www.inkeri.ru/note/680

and press "Просмотреть"

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 04 Jan 2015, 14:37

Hi,

...and thanks again.
Very interesting reading.

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 28 Oct 2016, 16:11

A seminar about General Kivekäs at Kouvola 19th November 2016
Juhlaseminaari lauantaina 19.11.2016 klo 10-15
Kouvola-talo, Simelius-sali, Varuskuntakatu 11
Kouvolalaislähtöisen, kolmen armeijan kenraalina toimineen, Kaarlo Kivekkään syntymästä tulee kuluneeksi 150 vuotta Suomen itsenäisyyspäivänä 6.12.2016. Merkkivuoden kunniaksi Kouvolan kaupunginmuseo järjestää juhlaseminaarin Kivekkään elämästä ja sotilasurasta lauantaina 19.11.2016.

Ohjelma:
klo 10.00 Tervetuliaissanat intendentti Anu Kasnio, Poikilo-museot
klo 10.05 Sakari Viinikainen: Kivekkään Kouvola
klo 10.45 Jarmo Loikkanen: Kivekäs keisarillisen Venäjän armeijassa
klo 11.30 Tero Hasu: Suomalaiset upseerit keisarillisen Venäjän armeijassa
klo 12.10–12-45 kahvitauko (omakustanteinen) Kahvila Sävel-Bistro avoinna
klo 12.45 Jarmo Loikkanen: Kivekäs atamaanina Ukrainassa ja itsenäisen
Suomen armeijassa
klo 13.15 Juha Tompuri: Kivekkään jäljillä Pamirilla 2014
klo 13.45 Davlat Hudonazarov: K. E. Kivekäs - The brave defender of Pamiri Tajiks
Kivekäs, Pamirin kansan rohkea puolustaja
Tadžikkilainen videodokumentti Kivekkäästä
(luento englanniksi, video venäjäksi)
klo 15.00 seminaari päätyy
http://www.kouvola.fi/index/kulttuurija ... raali.html

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 02 Nov 2016, 22:57

A documentary about General Kivekäs by Davlat can be loaded here:
https://cloud.mail.ru/files/BA71D1DF9A5 ... 04412888E/

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 14 Nov 2016, 23:34

...and now with english language subtitles and narrative:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... jMwY3ZrWHM

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 23 Apr 2017, 14:22

Also about Kivekäs:

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A book from a Forum member.
Russian heritage in the Finnish army. People and weapons.
Haven't looked it yet, but sounds very interesting. About ex-Imperial Russian soldiers that served at Finnish army, and Russian/Soviet origin weapons used by Finnsh defence forces.
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=130079&start=105#p2074934

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