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Zrinyi Crew Accounts

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Post by David C. Clarke » 27 Jul 2002, 16:35

Hi Guys, Have any articles or books been published that contain actual accounts of soldiers who were crew members in the Zrinyi Assault
Guns? Thanks, David :D

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Post by Milan Szekelyhidi » 28 Jul 2002, 15:09

I have got a magazine, where you can read a little bit information for Zrínyi assault gun, and you can find archive and Armoured Museum of Kubinka pictures for Zrínyi. I have got 2 magazine, and if you want it, I send it in post for free. E-mail me your post address.
[email protected]

You can read books with more information, only in Hungarian language, or you find in the Internet.

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Post by Kapitan Drago » 28 Jul 2002, 18:33

What about book about the Hungarian Army and weapons,equipments,prototypes,project tanks,Arty guns,AT,AA and planes and more... even it is in Hungarian?Where to get book like this?
My web page ,with info about Bulgarian military history:
http://hometown.aol.com/bogdanovaslava/index.html

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Post by Milan Szekelyhidi » 29 Jul 2002, 22:36

Kapitan Drago wrote:What about book about the Hungarian Army and weapons,equipments,prototypes,project tanks,Arty guns,AT,AA and planes and more... even it is in Hungarian?Where to get book like this?
You can find only in Hungary.

More informations for Zrinyi II:

40/43M Zrínyi II assault-gun

Mass of battle: 21600 kg
Number of person: 4
Max. length: 5550 mm
Max. flightiness: 2900 mm
Height: 1900 mm
Stomach height: 380 mm
Track: 2140 mm
Caterpillar flightiness: 420 mm
Specific land pressure: 0.79 kp/cm2
Motor: Weiss Manfréd V-8H, 4 rate, 8 cylinder, benzine
Cylinder capacity: 14866 cm3
Performance: 260 horsepower
Specific performance: 12.1 h.p./t
Max. speed on road: 43 km/h
Go slope ability: 45 degree
Go upstairs ability: 0.80 m
Shallows ability: 0.90 m
Trench bridge ability: 2.20 m
Range on road: 220 km
Fuel permission: 445 liter
Number of speed: 6 forward, 6 reverse
Armour: 13-75 mm
Guns / ammo grant:
1 piece 40/43M 105 mm howitzer / 52 piece
(In the battle used 90-95 ammos, 6 hand grenade, 2 explosive load, 4 submachine-guns and handguns)
Radio: R-5/a

September 1943, 3 Zrinyi II to the training assault-artillery class.
October 1943, 10 Zrinyi II ready.
November 1943, 10 Zrinyi II ready.
December 1943, 10 Zrinyi II ready.
January 1944, 7 Zrinyi II ready.
April-June 1944, 20 Zrinyi II ready.
July 1944, 6 Zrinyi II ready.

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Post by Milan Szekelyhidi » 30 Jul 2002, 21:42

31 piece Zrínyi II 1. Assault-artillery class
35 piece Zrínyi II 7. and 10. Assault-artillery class

5. Battery of 1. Assault-artillery class of about 20 Zrínyi II, the Soviets
sacked for Budapest enclosure.
The Soviets brought the Zrínyis to Kubinka. Now, You can view one Zrínyi II
in Kubinka Muzeum.

Photo from Kubinka.

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Post by David C. Clarke » 31 Jul 2002, 19:27

Fine pictures Milan. The Zrinyi was low and fairly well-armored. All in all a decent vehicle. It would have been interesting if the Zrinyi were made in greater quantities like the German StuG. Best Regards, David :D

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Post by David C. Clarke » 31 Jul 2002, 19:28

Fine pictures Milan. The Zrinyi was low and fairly well-armored. All in all a decent vehicle. It would have been interesting if the Zrinyi were made in greater quantities like the German StuG. Best Regards, David :D

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Post by Csaba Becze » 01 Aug 2002, 07:33

It was lower, than the StuG III. The Hungarian assault gunners liked this type and shot a lot of Soviet tanks and assault guns out with their Zrínyi's. It had two problems: the Zrínyi's had't welded armour and the gun's barrel was short (the muzzle velocity of the howitzer's shell wasn't enough for a firefight against Soviet heavy tanks over 1 km). BTW they had firefight with long distance very rarely, and the 105 mm AT shell's effect against Soviet tanks was very good. The Soviets had to sacrifice 3-4 armored vehicles for one Zrínyi.
It was an excellent vehicle for ambushes, and for escorting the attacker infantry.

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Zrinyi I

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Post by Milan Szekelyhidi » 05 Aug 2002, 21:57

44M Zrínyi I assault-gun

Mass of battle: 22000 kg
Number of person: 4
Max. length: 7600 mm
Max. flightiness: 2900 mm
Height: 1900 mm
Stomach height: 380 mm
Track: 2140 mm
Caterpillar flightiness: 420 mm
Specific land pressure: 0.79 kp/cm2
Motor: Weiss Manfréd V-8H, 4 rate, 8 cylinder, benzine
Cylinder capacity: 14866 cm3
Performance: 260 horsepower
Specific performance: 11.8 h.p./t
Max. speed on road: 40 km/h
Go slope ability: 45 degree
Go upstairs ability: 0.80 m
Shallows ability: 0.90 m
Trench bridge ability: 2.20 m
Range on road: 220 km
Fuel permission: 445 liter
Number of speed: 6 forward, 6 reverse
Armour: 13-100 mm
Guns / ammo grant:
1 piece 43M 75 mm tank gun
Radio: R-5/a

Made only the prototype.

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Post by Bob_Mackenzie » 12 Jun 2007, 08:50

Gents

To resurect a very old thread....

Anyone have a breakdown of the Zrinyi's armour beyond the 75mm to 13mm ?

Cheers

Bob

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Post by Ardee » 12 Jun 2007, 19:25

I don't have a definitive answer for you, but I do have a different set of figures for the range of armor: see

http://www.ordersofbattle.darkscape.net ... Specs.html

The info is a link off of an article by Jason Long, who has several articles about the Hungarians forces of WWII, appearing at several different sites. Anyway, the page/article the link is from is:

http://www.ordersofbattle.darkscape.net ... 2Army.html

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Post by KACKO » 13 Jun 2007, 20:50

Do somebody know more about Zrinyi of I believe 1st battalion in Bratislava, Slovakia in 1945? Or Zrinyis in Slovakia in winter 1944/45?

I saw recently picture of destroyed Zrinyi and Turan on one of Bratislava streets. On picture was visible panorama of Male Karpaty mountains. Which unit could use this vehicles in Bratislava in April 1945?

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Post by Andrew Telford » 14 Jun 2007, 14:29

Bob_Mackenzie wrote:Gents

To resurect a very old thread....

Anyone have a breakdown of the Zrinyi's armour beyond the 75mm to 13mm ?

Cheers

Bob
Bob, are these of any use?
They come from an article by Adám Bíró in the Hungarian magazine Haditechnika (issue 1996/1) the drawings are dated 1995.
I have the original magazines if the images are not clear.

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Post by Bob_Mackenzie » 16 Jun 2007, 11:59

Brilliant! Thanks :)

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