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by GWorldmann
02 Jul 2023, 13:28
Forum: The Dieter Zinke Axis Biographical Research Section
Topic: Knight's Cross Holders Identification
Replies: 25836
Views: 3844970

Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

GWorldmann wrote:
30 Jun 2023, 14:57
Unknown LW RKT
s-l1600 - 2023-06-30T155638.012.jpg
Maybe Rudolf Müller KG27?
https://www.tracesofwar.com/persons/356 ... r-KG27.htm
by Sinjoorke
17 Feb 2023, 22:01
Forum: The Dieter Zinke Axis Biographical Research Section
Topic: Knight's Cross Holders Identification
Replies: 25836
Views: 3844970

Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

GWorldmann wrote:
17 Feb 2023, 10:02
docarchiv wrote:
17 Feb 2023, 06:34
gunter83 wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 23:03
Sinjoorke wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 21:20
GWorldmann wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 19:04
RKT in first rows

videoplayback 104883.jpg
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From left, Ofw. Otto Brakat, Olt. Ernst-Georg Buchterkirch, 3?, Ofw. Josef Dörfel, 5?, 6?, 7?, 8?, SS-Staf. Wilhelm Trabandt.
Regards,
Hugo.
Where did you see Trabandt? I don't see any SS RKT
Oberst Klaus Müller in the tank uniform. I visited him in the 80s and asked him: "Guess, who was sitting in the first row during the Goebbels speach?" He smiled.
This him?
https://www.tracesofwar.com/persons/124 ... nf-Div.htm
No, it's Maj./Obst. Claus-Hermann Müller, RK 03.04.1942. Kdr. Pz.Abt. 60.
Regards,
Hugo.
by GWorldmann
17 Feb 2023, 10:02
Forum: The Dieter Zinke Axis Biographical Research Section
Topic: Knight's Cross Holders Identification
Replies: 25836
Views: 3844970

Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

docarchiv wrote:
17 Feb 2023, 06:34
gunter83 wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 23:03
Sinjoorke wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 21:20
GWorldmann wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 19:04
RKT in first rows

videoplayback 104883.jpg
videoplayback 104855.jpgvideoplayback 104877.jpg
From left, Ofw. Otto Brakat, Olt. Ernst-Georg Buchterkirch, 3?, Ofw. Josef Dörfel, 5?, 6?, 7?, 8?, SS-Staf. Wilhelm Trabandt.
Regards,
Hugo.
Where did you see Trabandt? I don't see any SS RKT
Oberst Klaus Müller in the tank uniform. I visited him in the 80s and asked him: "Guess, who was sitting in the first row during the Goebbels speach?" He smiled.
This him?
https://www.tracesofwar.com/persons/124 ... nf-Div.htm
by Denis
19 Jan 2006, 10:48
Forum: The Dieter Zinke Axis Biographical Research Section
Topic: Knight's Cross Holders Identification
Replies: 25836
Views: 3844970

FANGIO wrote:Hi Denis!
Do you mean this F-W Müller?:
http://www.das-ritterkreuz.de/index_sea ... ord=müller
The man in Freiherr's pic has no hair at all.

Another question for Denis:
In Biblio_9 you identified these men:
- Ofw Karl Christmann (to be confirmed)
- the tall officer : Heinz Gutmann
- the officer whose the face is partially hidden by his visor cap : Heinz Zöllner (to be confirmed)
- Ernst-Ascan Gobert
- Johann Dreher (to confirm)
- Major (already RKT) : maybe Karl Rauer

I have this pic of Zöllner (Source: balsi.de) and even though he's not looking at the camera I think that the man you've identified as Johann Dreher could be Zöllner, what do you think? Who could be the man you identified as Zöllner then? (if I`m right of course).

Last one:
I have to agree with Freiherr on Biblio_11, it`s Thomaschki. I've seen a few pics of Betzel and he is always wearing the "General Assault Badge".

Any help is appreciated.

Best,

FANGIO

Hello Fangio
I wasn't talking about FW Müller but FW Jürgen !! You need a rest, stop looking at RKT !! However, I agree both wear the same first name :P :lol:

Regarding Zöllner and Dreher, thanks for the pic. The more I see both, the more I get confused !! I could have made a mismatch and this might be Christmann, Guttmann, Dreher, Gobert and Zöllner. I am rather comfortable with ID of Gobert and Guttmann though.

@ Dieter : it would be interesing to have a bettert scan from colar patches or shoulder straps from the third (from the left side) and the fifth (idem) newly RKT.

Dreher was awarded the RK as Oblt while Zöllner was Hptm.

Best Regards
Denis
by FANGIO
18 Jan 2006, 19:09
Forum: The Dieter Zinke Axis Biographical Research Section
Topic: Knight's Cross Holders Identification
Replies: 25836
Views: 3844970

Hi Denis!
Do you mean this F-W Müller?:
http://www.das-ritterkreuz.de/index_sea ... ord=müller
The man in Freiherr's pic has no hair at all.

Another question for Denis:
In Biblio_9 you identified these men:
- Ofw Karl Christmann (to be confirmed)
- the tall officer : Heinz Gutmann
- the officer whose the face is partially hidden by his visor cap : Heinz Zöllner (to be confirmed)
- Ernst-Ascan Gobert
- Johann Dreher (to confirm)
- Major (already RKT) : maybe Karl Rauer

I have this pic of Zöllner (Source: balsi.de) and even though he's not looking at the camera I think that the man you've identified as Johann Dreher could be Zöllner, what do you think? Who could be the man you identified as Zöllner then? (if I`m right of course).

Last one:
I have to agree with Freiherr on Biblio_11, it`s Thomaschki. I've seen a few pics of Betzel and he is always wearing the "General Assault Badge".

Any help is appreciated.

Best,

FANGIO

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