Luftwaffe Flag authetification
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Luftwaffe Flag authetification
I wasn't sure I was allowed to show what's under the post it note, but I'm sure you know.
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Re: Luftwaffe Flag authetification
Hello NeroWoof :
Welcome to AHF.
Unfortunately, this flag has no relation to the Jagdgeschwader 2 'Richthofen', whose heraldry was a letter 'R' inside of a shield.
Regarding the markings, someone took a lot of work to confuse about its authenticity.
Luftwaffe Jagdgeschwaders were represented by a flag like the one shown below ( Flag for Air force Flying Units, Technical, and
Aerial Warfare Schools ). The other side had a black Iron Cross in the center, surrounded by a garland of oak leaves.
Welcome to AHF.
Unfortunately, this flag has no relation to the Jagdgeschwader 2 'Richthofen', whose heraldry was a letter 'R' inside of a shield.
Regarding the markings, someone took a lot of work to confuse about its authenticity.
Luftwaffe Jagdgeschwaders were represented by a flag like the one shown below ( Flag for Air force Flying Units, Technical, and
Aerial Warfare Schools ). The other side had a black Iron Cross in the center, surrounded by a garland of oak leaves.
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Re: Luftwaffe Flag authetification
Any idea what this is? It's high quality materials, not something someone would make in their basement. And I've seen the R.Badermann/Wien mark on other WWII era flags. It came from the estate of a WWII vet, but sadly, he wasn't there to tell where it came from. Is there any chance an individual squadron would have their own flag? I'm just curious since I can't find another one like it. Fantasy pieces are usually made in large quantities and I'd expect to see a few of them on the Internet.
Thanks for any help.
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Re: Luftwaffe Flag authetification
If you are referring to this flag, it's a modern fake.And I've seen the R.Badermann/Wien mark on other WWII era flags.
https://kraftauctions.hibid.com/lot/252 ... mand-flag/
Another fake in a different colour, and the same measurements 60x90.
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Re: Luftwaffe Flag authetification
So, it appears to be a fantasy piece. Generally, fantasy pieces are made in quantity and sold in gift shops, on the Internet, or flea markets. Usually, there are multiple examples. For a single piece to show up in a central Pennsylvania auction threw me off. This seems like an expensive one-off. Fortunately, I didn't pay much for it. It was in a box lot, I didn't even know it was there when I bought it. Any idea where, when, or by whom it was made?
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Re: Luftwaffe Flag authetification
This ais a Delta nternational fantasy pice of crap flag
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Delta International 60X90
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OK, it's starting to make more sense. Someone could have bought a solid yellow code flag and printed their own design. The stamps on the edge still suggest to me that they probably made more than one. You'd think they'd show up somewhere.
Now, I'm wondering if you were going to that much trouble, why make a fantasy piece instead of copying an actual WWII flag?
Thanks for the help.
Now, I'm wondering if you were going to that much trouble, why make a fantasy piece instead of copying an actual WWII flag?
Thanks for the help.
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Re: Luftwaffe Flag authetification
they go to so much trouble because in this world knuckleheads who are stupid ass cluekless will buy them as genuineNeroWoof wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023 12:51OK, it's starting to make more sense. Someone could have bought a solid yellow code flag and printed their own design. The stamps on the edge still suggest to me that they probably made more than one. You'd think they'd show up somewhere.
Now, I'm wondering if you were going to that much trouble, why make a fantasy piece instead of copying an actual WWII flag?
Thanks for the help.